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  2. Bram responds the next day. The submitter responds to Bram a week later... 
  3. Bram responds the next day.
  4. Patch was merged after 4 months.
  5. Bram responds same day after patch is added to mailing list.

Looks like the response times are great!

Also it looks like a patch that is merged is put on the mailing list at the root and not as a reply to peoples messages.

So it is hard to tell how long someone submits something and when a patch is merged by looking at responses. You would have to find a patch someone submitted, then find Brams "Patch" messages to find when it was merged and compute time difference

1. Never merged. No replies.

2. Never merged, though a similar patch by the same person was merged a couple of weeks later. Try, try, again.

3. Never merged. Waiting on Bram.

4. Merged after 6 months, only because users constantly pestered. This patch was 12 lines, all straightforward.

5. Never merged. Bram said it was on his to-merge list in 2013.

All of these patches are pretty small. It shouldn't take long to reply with "Yes", "No", or "fix this". Yet the response is often one reply, followed by crickets. As 2 and 5 show, even the "yes" patches can fall through the cracks.

Bram's initial response can be quick, but it's often an ordeal to actually get a patch merged, even for trivial ones. This is likely due to a combination of Bram being a very busy person and mailing lists being terrible for this sort of thing.

1) Here the real problem is the maintainer of the syntax file who is hard to reach. I have contacted him several times but never got fa reply. No real problem of Vim. 2) merged February 25th. Not bad I would say (again a runtime file problem) 3) merged with 7.4.646 4) yes, sometimes it takes a while. 5) took long but has been merged with 7.4.652

I'm confused though. I don't ever see a response from Bram saying "merged this". Instead you see a constant stream of patches merged at the root of the mailing list.

So I don't think you can look for his response in the mailing list for a submission if it was merged or not. You have to look at the stream of merged patches.

My goodness. I'm shocked anyone is motivated enough to even get stuff through that process.

Which is why neovim exists now.

Which practically no one actually uses.

I truly wonder what kind of idiot downvotes this. Pure propaganda.

And the new comment was downvoted within seconds. The stakes seem to be high in this thread...

Complaints about downvotes will always get downvotes.

In realtime?

And the kind of hipsters who use neovim apparently have unlimited time for guarding threads and realtime downvoting.

I don't think Bram gets paid to maintain VIM, so you get what you get. Not to say that it did not take work to produce a patch, but it's also a lot of work to review and merge them.

What the hosting site could do is provide a way for users to build a customized image with selected contributed patches. This would allow the patches to be used without having to add more work to the primary developer.

He could broaden the team a bit with his vote overruling if needs be. That would certainly help.