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I suggest the opposite.

The reason you can't work just 3 hours a day is that you need to make money for other people as well. Too many governmental jobs that has really no real value, but exist due to socialistic idea, governments want to give work to people for votes and for statistics.

And you must pay for those jobs yourself, be it through direct taxes or by the fact that products you buy cost more, because companies are obliged by regulations to hire someone to do something that they have to pay for.

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Not only due to socialistic ideas. Even big private corporations have a tendency to grow organizational pockets and positions of no real value. If you have worked there you will have noticed them.

yep, but those will crush financially at the end. They will have to improve. Governments not, they'll just take more taxes.

No, they don't crash. I see this happening in big coporations like IBM, Cisco, and Coca Cola.

The is just more insentive to cut down that sort of thing in coporations. While all big companys are less effective because of organsiation, there are lots of people specially dedicated to finding usless work and cutting it away.

I know mulitble people who have exactly that job, and non of them work for governemnt.

IBM, that has existed for 100 years but they are the exeption not the rule. Most companys dont make it that long or grow that big.

I would suggest you read economic theory on this "The Theory of the Firm" by Ronald Coase is the usual place to start.

I read that paper but it speaks about why firm exists.

There are vast examples of workers not doing anything on any organization, blaming only the public sector is denial. The truth is that a company doing well has enough resources to do well even if they pay non productive workers.

Name some examples of no-value governmental jobs? It's easy to say someone's job is unnecessary from the outside.

Well there are of course diffrent classes, some are just not usful in my opinion. There are lots of things governemnt does that I dont think they should do, stopping people from taking drugs for example.

Then there is just plain inefficeny, and I have seen that. I know people who work in govenremnt and have worked there myself. There are people that work there that basiclly kind of float. They do jobs that could be done in hours in days, I even did that. This is true in any large organisation but governement is usally much bigger then most cooperations and they have less insentive for efficeny.

There are a lot of at random rules. Why do you need >100 senators when they barely meet and have a lot of workers? Why do you need a lot of people in the board of directors of gov co's when they never make any remark? Sometimes they even get paid if they do not show up!

Be specific. Which senator is not needed? Can everyone agree on how many senators are required? How confident are you really that they aren't needed?

> Too many governmental jobs that has really no real value, but exist due to socialistic idea

Data on that?

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