Comment by hyperliner | Hacker News Reader

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"at least he didn't let it happen under his watch."

People know so little about how the executive branch, including the President, must do the jobs that we, in our comfortable ignorance that maintains our lifestyle, need them to do for National Security.

At least Cheney is honest when he says he would do it again. There are many things that happen when you and your kids are comfortably sleeping or having hot cocoa.

Trust me. There are worse people in the world than the ones prople are blaming today. And it is just a matter of time before a drone takes care of them. And you want it that way.

If someone is uncomfortable with that notion, then maybe they should run for office or serve in some public capacity. But he or she will then discover the harsh reality.

Just watch a few videos of the news in 2001 or 2002 to refresh your memory a little about what we were asking our leaders to take care of.

Of course, "there are bad people in the world, and hard, tough men like ourselves have to take care of them, even if it's unsavory to weak-minded civilians who just don't understand" is what the leaders of ISIS tell themselves to justify beheading reporters, Putin tells himself to justify shooting down civilian airliners, and Cheney tells himself to justify anal rape and murder of innocents as instruments of public policy.

All of them should be imprisoned to protect society from their machinations.

Consider that if you're so willing to compromise your principles on human rights for the benefit of your family then you're basically practicing tribalism. You might as well enslave a race, or subjugate a class, or annex a sovereign nation for the lebenstraum.

Anybody who feels the need to bolster their argument with "trust me" is trying to fuck you over. It's an ironclad rule that people will only say that when they know they shouldn't be trusted.

> There are many things that happen when you and your kids are comfortably sleeping or having hot cocoa.

Torture isn't even effective in getting any information. So you can't justify it on pragmatic grounds.

I upvoted you. But Cheney is still rotten despite being honest. He doesn't deny that many in Gitmo are innocent (or not known to be guilty), yet still declares them terrorists. In that way he worked against your kids.

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