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Этот пост полон выдумок. Скажем, абсолютно не согласен с утверждением, что большинство "проголосовало" за Путина. Большинство проголосовало за единственный вариант, которые не приведёт к неадеквату в стране "прямо сейчас", который гарантируют другие кандидаты. По сути вопрос в том что выбора у населения НЕТ ВООБЩЕ. То что преподносится как "выбор" - тонко подстроенная игра олигархических группировок.

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Yours too. We no longer has any multi-polar oligarchic groups. It seems that all power is one set of hands now.

Even then, Putin got just 52% on elections in my town and the neighboring towns of Moscow area. I guess even Obama had it more secure.

Speaking about the elections, do you guys honestly believe that he has got 99,759%(!) vote with turnout of 99,61% (!!) in the region where he caused a death or two in practically every family?

No, I don't. Sociological reports show that only around 40% of people in those regions you mention admit of ever going to the voting booths.

However if they do, they're likely vote for Putin because other candidates would have even less appeal to them, even if they've heard of them.

If you don't see those other groups it doesn't show that they are not existent. It only proves diminished influence on the media etc.

Проголосовало или нет, но поддерживающих кажется абсурдно много. Может среди думающей молодёжи и нет (хотя тоже, на удивление, хватает), но поговори с теми, кто телек смотрит (большинство пожилых людей), они считают что всё, как там и говорят, что путен на белом коне, а остальные ополчившиеся на нас геи). Статистики у меня нет, говорю по людям, которых я встречал.

Those people are non-factors anyway. It should be obvious now that the only way this government can change is revolution, and people you are referring to — ones that take TV propaganda seriously — they will never be brave enough to hold their ground on streets. The same ideology that makes them believe in propaganda is also detrimental to their civic activity (even if it's a pro-govt activity), so you can safely assume that they doesn't exist. That's not to say about criminal scum of different sorts that profits from Putin's regime — think "patriotic bikers" and police. Yep, they will fight for it, but their number is small, they are vastly outnumbered by good people. It's just the courage and determination of educated middle class that is needed to end this madness.

Всё логично. Кого они ещё могут выбрать? Назовите мне хоть одну реально адекватную альтернативу... под адеватной я подразумеваю такую, которая: а) имеет чётко очерченные планы по развитию страны; б) имеет опыт или хотя-бы пользуется доверием у людей; в) поддерживается финансово.

this is a nonsensical and circular argument, I am sorry. How can you seriously believe that a country of 150 mln people has no alternative to Putin? that is impossible statistically.

You seem to be ignorant of what real-life presidency prerequisites are (as opposed to formal ones) if you consider millions of people as possible candidates...

"имеет опыт или хотя-бы пользуется доверием у людей" Do we have a single such person in 140 million Russia?

My bet is on "no".

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