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My +1 goes to Kelsey Hightower. He posted on 7 Nov some worries which many Docker users and contributors, already had since the past year, when you dropped off LXC containers, instead of working together with https://linuxcontainers.org/ project to get a better code. That seems already a strategic business decision to decouple your "product value" from his mother and generator: LXC. IMO, Docker's 'new' direction completely ignored the tremendous amount of support they had from the sysadmin and devops communities.

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> IMO, Docker's 'new' direction completely ignored the tremendous amount of support they had from the sysadmin and devops communities.

Kind of weird that this line from your comment is identical to a line in this comment from another user: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8682864

Infact I just copy & past that ..., not the least, I didn't found better words to express that feeling, which I hope it will be wrong honestly because I'm on board with Docker since the early days and I'd like to see it more community driven that private business driven.

Hacker plagiarism.

@jsprogrammer yes,

cutting & pasting (hacking :) is faster, if you're not mother tongue but believe me, in Italian it won't sound so gentle & polite.

Moreover, ... we all hope that like a "plagiarism" it won't became a a common feeling, a meme.

So what about the other 75% of my worry? That's not a cut & past, is my worry, what do you think about:

> ... Kelsey Hightower ... posted on 7 Nov some worries which many Docker users and contributors, already had since the past year, when you dropped off LXC containers, instead of working together with https://linuxcontainers.org/ project to get a better code. That seems already a strategic business decision to decouple your "product value" from his mother and generator: LXC.

I only meant it as a statement of fact. When all we really get from each other is pieces of text, it is viewed as 'suspicious' when someone copies something verbatim without acknowledging that they have done so. Of course, the context plays a big part of whether it's viewed like that. In a forum like this, where we are supposedly typing our own 'comments' to the conversation, it's a little strange to see a sentence like that copied in two places with two different user names. It made me consider if the comment was made by a bot.

Is LXC upset about Docker? I'm not sure how much room is for strategic business decisions like that. The solution is going to be a technical one and it's probably going to go to the first one to get it 'right'. There might not be space for many companies to compete on small parts of the solution (like, how to package a container).

Thanks for clarifying @jsprogrammer. What I'd really like, would be an Open Source model able to be COOPERATIVE over COMPETITIVE, as it was at the beginning of the movement.

We all are here because of that disruptive vision and willing to cooperate beyond personal & corps interests, not to compete between startups to get funds and be quoted to the NASDAQ. No Linux or Docker or even Google, would be here without that enlightened vision.

That's way I don't agree with @shykes statement one too: "1)Competition is always good ...". No Sir, not always, it depends by what you are competing for and if you follow the competition rules too.

I'm really astonished seeing big CORPs like Microsoft, VMware and others, put their eyes on a relatively small but potentially disruptive projects like Docker, the pressure could be misleading, also for an Hacker like @shykes.

We already saw that traps so many times ..., anyway I think everything it's gonna be good at the end of the day and I saw @shykes on the right pathway already: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8684119

I like Docker as a project, as well as a company. So many times I thought: "that's a company I'd really like to work for".

I'm sure that @shykes (Solomon Hykes), has the strength to find the balance between external Corps pressures and Project wellness to led this Open Source community the right path like he did until now.

That is difficult to achieve when you're embedded in a culture that often puts money above everything. Everyone (as in, those competing [often corporations]) are focused on the dollars and market share over the technical merits of the solutions.

There is a strong desire to own and control solutions. The facts are that image registries and container execution are lightweight abstractions over already existing protocols [DNS, HTTP] and technologies [Linux Containers]. There's not much to own in the space other than through having the 'best' technical solution.

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