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I don't understand the CC options offered by Flickr. I personally don't see any Commercial options. Here are the options I see:

- Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike Creative Commons (my default option)

- Attribution-NonCommercial Creative Commons

- Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs Creative Commons

- Attribution Creative Commons

- Attribution-ShareAlike Creative Commons

- Attribution-NoDerivs Creative Commons

- Attribution-NonCommercial Creative Commons

Which one is the commercial one?

BTW: You can reset the license on your entire photostream by doing a batch reset: https://www.flickr.com/account/prefs/license/batch/

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It's the ones that don't say NonCommercial.

And I think that's the real problem, they're poorly named. They should explicitly say Commercial.

Creative Commons made an ideological decision to make Commercial licenses the default, and they promote them as "Free Cultural Works" to make them sound more appealing.

Creative Commons made an ideological decision to make Commercial licenses the default

Of course they did. They also made an ideological decision in creating the licenses in the first place. This connotation of "ideological" with "bad" is obnoxious.

they promote them as "Free Cultural Works" to make them sound more appealing.

Yeah, just like people say "free speech" even though you often have to pay to get your speech across.

Or maybe it's not about money at all.

But I'm sure you were just unaware of that. It's not like HN talks about it every other month.

For CC BY, CC BY-SA, and CC BY-ND, Creative Commons itself explicitly mentions the word "commercial" in its summaries: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/

Of course, if your description is correct, Yahoo/Flickr may have an interest in downplaying that important detail.

But it's only commercial in the sense that it permits commercial use, but it also explicitly leave the creator out of any compensation beyond attribution.

Yahoo's actual announcement on November 20 says they're using "a subset of Creative Commons images ('safe' photos with license type CC-BY and CC-BY-SA)." See:

https://www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157649323144986/pa...

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