Even if you protect yourself from relativistic atoms, they still create a drag. And that happens before you reach 0.99c.
Even if you protect yourself from relativistic atoms, they still create a drag. And that happens before you reach 0.99c.
I'm in California. If the whole Earth was this 2mm breadcrumb, then the Sun would be a soccer ball 25m away (across the street). Speed of light would be the speed of a running ant. Uranus would be a peanut 1/2km away.
And the nearest star would be another soccer ball somewhere in Greenland.
It. Just. Boggles. The. Mind.
http://florin.myip.org/blog/i-had-no-idea-just-how-big-solar...
I look up at the sky often. Those specks of light are so incredibly far away. We just need new physics, otherwise we'll never get there.
I'm an amateur astronomer and telescope maker, on a quest to see what's the biggest aperture that an amateur could build working alone. I can't go to the stars, but I can bring them a few hundred to a few thousand times closer to the eye.
But can an ant run 25m in 8 minutes? I honestly can't imagine how fast an ant runs. That would be a foot in 4.8 secs - that's a fast ant actually. But I guess close.
The equation for Messor pergandei is 0.0878 * T - 0.1724 or roughly 40 mm/sec.
So 50 mm/sec seems quite possible.
Here's another comparo:
If your average galaxy was the size of a coin, the size of the observable universe would be on the order of a large town.
For travel between star systems, these assumptions do not need to be true. For deceleration, it makes more sense to transfer the original kinetic energy out of the vehicle's movement than to expend even more energy on accelerating reaction mass yet even faster in the original direction of travel. Remember that you have a whole star system of reaction mass at your destination. There may be engineering challenges, but there is no physics reason why you couldn't expend your original energy in "pushing off the sun", and then recover it by "pushing against the new sun" when you arrive. Depending upon efficiency, this could then leave you with the energy for another flight (perhaps home).
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> to actually stop yourself you need an exponential amount of fuel, because you need to accelerate half of it just to stop yourself
Hang on, I don't understand this part. First, you're right, I didn't think about deceleration - but that only doubles the trip length at most, since you have to accelerate halfway, then decelerate halfway. And probably not even exactly that if you're carrying your fuel, since deceleration will be a little bit easier - you've burned some gas, so there's less mass to push around.
And you're right, I didn't think about the drag - but that actually works out better for extragalactic visitors! There isn't as much stuff there to stop them when they're taking off, and once they hit a galaxy, it actually helps them decelerate. (Again, my dreamy eyes are ignoring the practical hazards of this "help" which might just turn them into a fast moving gas cloud.)
That is what equations tell you: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/rocket.h... ( scroll to How much fuel is needed? )
I wonder if you could accelerate the whole way in a giant ship, and only slow down a tiny capsule at your 'destination' - maybe just a tiny self-replicating robot factory and some data storage. Decelerate that, land it, have it build you a new body, some tools, etc., etc.
The first is the technology to support their culture for a very long time without the support of a nearby star. In that case, there is no particular reason for them to visit galaxies at all. They simply pick a direction and go. Galaxies would be of no particular interest to a civilization that doesn't even need one star, nor would they need to travel at particularly high accelerations.
The second is a propulsion technology that does not require reaction mass (or reaction energy, as with laser propulsion). You would have to devise a way to move something without throwing something in the opposite direction. Thanks to the equations involved, trying to get a long distance away with decent speed using only chemical rockets basically means your ship will start the trip as more than 99.9% fuel by mass.
That is what prompts the imagining of alternate propulsion technologies, such as the Orion nuclear rocket, solar/laser sails, Bussard ramjets, slingshot orbits, and magnetic braking loops. Accelerating the fuel that you will later need to decelerate is a huge problem just for inter-system travel; you can't even bother with it for inter-galactic travel.
One of these problems is much more easily solved than the other. Either way, that civilization would then have no particular use for galaxies as a travel destination.
Tourism usually requires that you be alive when you finally get there. At that scale, if you chose to visit even the closest galaxy to ours, not only will you be long dead and thoroughly recycled when your vessel arrives, but the passengers that disembark to snap a group photo might not even be considered Homo sapiens any more.
That kind of commitment can only come from existential necessity. Any visitors to a galaxy that came from outside of one would undoubtedly have a technology that allows travel without actually traversing the intervening distance.
Imagine an alien lifeform with an average lifespan of several million years, perhaps the size of a mouse (not much mass) and with extremely slow metabolism (not much supplies needed for travel). For them, traveling to a nearby galaxy at relativistic speeds (only a few years from the traveler's perspective) might be seen as little more than a nice long vacation. Sure, a dozen lifespans might have passed by the time they get home, but maybe they don't care because they don't have children like we do and their civilization doesn't change much. "They released the Galaxy S9 already? That's crazy! Three new models in a billennium!"
You don't even need FTL transportation if you can afford to spend a few eons strapped to a seat.
And if they don't need to, they probably won't. If you lived in the country, and wanted to visit the city, you might do so frequently if the trip cost you 15 minutes and $10. You might never do it at all if the trip took 50 years and $100billion.
Space travel is more like the latter than the former.
If, on the other hand, travel to anywhere on Earth cost you 1 second and $0.01, you might just visit every city. That's why I say that any non-galactic visitor to a galaxy is more likely to have a kick-ass travel technology. It's a purely time-based argument, and has nothing to do with any property of the species that has it. They would simply spend far more time at their intended destinations than traveling between them.