Apple Event October 2014 Live Stream
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That's an enticing price if Anandtech's guess[1] of $2500 for the (yet unreleased) Dell 5120x2880 monitor is accurate. The Dell display doesn't include a Mac computer inside it. If Dell had to recalibrate its price in response to Apple's announcement, would it be something like $1899 street price?
EDIT to add: I find it interesting to compare this new display announcement to the CinemaDisplay 10 years ago. When Apple debuted the 30" 2560x1600 CinemaDisplay in June 2004, no other major manufacturer had a comparable display. Dell didn't introduce their 2560x1600 3007WFP until January 2006. Apple was the only player for that high resolution and that strength was reflected in the price: $3299. It stayed at that price for over a year (Apple finally lowered it to $2499 in October 2005). Today, Dell announced their 5k monitor 6 weeks before Apple. I guess it's getting harder and harder these days for Apple to create products that catches their competitors else off guard.
[1]http://www.anandtech.com/show/8496/dell-previews-27inch-5k-u...
Edit: For all those down-modders out there, I suppose I should clarify that I'm not making any sort of environmental point. (Though I suppose a person might.) I own several Apple products myself (and probably soon a few more) and while I think the tech/consumer-electronics industry has a lot of work to do to even approach sustainability, I don't think there's any reason to single Apple out for criticism. I am a bit surprised, though, that nobody at Apple thought writing out the word "oil" with their products was a bad idea given their past troubles with Greenpeace.
edit: Dell previewed a similar screen last month[1] a "world first" but won't ship til December (5K iMac shipping today if I heard right?). No price on Dell screen, rumor was $2,500 but Apple's throwing in a computer for the same price so I doubt that will hold up.
Really, I'll probably buy this, but it's more important that it takes desktop computing is finally moving on from ridiculous low res displays.
Like many people, my vision took a hit when I turned 40, so I have to disagree with that statement. While YMMV, 1080p on a 27" monitor is not ridiculously low res for the average person.
Anything between 100-130 dpi is more than fine enough with me at my viewing distances.
Speaking only for my use case -- when I'm doing work, I'd prefer a >= 4K resolution that gives me more real estate over one that gives me denser pixels, which is why I would choose a 40" 4K monitor over a 28" 4K monitor, because the pixels on the smaller monitor are simply wasted on my aging eyes.
To me, the main beneficiaries of the new 5K iMac are designers and people who work with (or care a lot about) video and photography. I left gamers out of the list, because I don't know if the R9 M290X is actually powerful enough to drive a game at native res at 60fps.
OTOH, now I have to disagree with you a bit. I'm currently using 1080p on a 24" and while I'm ok with it so far (everyone else using the screen, ranging from ages 10 to 55 has no issue either), I would under no circumstances go lower than this. And it's not like my vision has improved since my 20's (in the 30s currently).
But, as the interested reader realizes at this point, it really boils down more to the defition of 'average person'.
> To me, the main beneficiaries of the new 5K iMac are designers and people who work with (or care a lot about) video and photography
Did you intend to leave out programmers? I'm asking because for instance, I prefer to do my readings on paper than on screen; simply because of the higher dpi/'ppi'. And after having worked a bit with a Retina display, I can't almost can't wait to do my work on one...
That's fair. On my 15" 1680x1050 MBP (~175dpi), almost anyone(different ages) who came to look at my screen would make some negative comment about having to squint to read the text, especially if I'm running Windows. My 27" 1080p monitor is lower density, but it's also about a foot farther than where a laptop screen would be for me.
>> Did you intend to leave out programmers?
Yes, but let me explain my logic: I think most programmers would rather have the equivalent of four 1080p screens worth of text editors and debugging windows than sharper text quality on a single smaller screen. Having both real estate and dpi, of course, would be even more ideal.
The question is, how long will it take until high res becomes available broadly? Apple had to create their own¹ display here, and I doubt they'll share the secret sauce lightly. I suspect they're already holding back, since I'm in search for some Hi-Res desktop display for some time now. Almost everybody cheats by simply upping the display size, instead of the pixel density. And it's not like the retina display hasn't been around for 2 years now!
It's either that, or they're simply scooping up all or a significant amount of the available supply for themselves.
¹To some extent, i.e. at least the controller chip
Bold claim. http://live.arstechnica.com/apples-october-16-2014-media-eve...
Would be interesting to know what the technology is behind this (if the claim is even half true).
I doubt Apple has more developers working on Safari than Google has on V8.
In fact, for average website javascript, the fastest "not horrible" codegen will win, because they run for such short times.
I was thinking maybe the WebKit FTL JIT[1], but that had a claimed 35% increase in performance though....
[1]: https://www.webkit.org/blog/3362/introducing-the-webkit-ftl-...
http://www.infoq.com/news/2014/05/safari-webkit-javascript-l...
https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/FTLJIT
Or is it something else?
They even say so on the blog post for the FTL JIT:
"Websites today serve large amounts of highly dynamic JavaScript code that typically runs for a relatively short time. The dominant cost in such code is the time spent loading it and the memory used to store it. "
Instead, it's more likely they have some weird benchmarks that they win on.
Everyone has their favorites, and reasons they claim they matter.
While it's been about year since i looked, most of them are just not large enough amounts of executing code to be reasonable benchmarks to argue about (they try to increase workloads bby increasing iterations, etc).
In truth, i can't fault anyone for the benchmarks they choose (except maybe regexp-dna), most are testcases extracted from the websites/programs they care about.
But this does not actually make them good benchmarks to optimize for, just good things to make fast.
The difference being, you want to pick representative benchmarks such that if you optimize for them, ideally all the cases you care about are made fast, not just the ones in the benchmarks.
For example, regex-dna (part of sunspider) is a benchmark about regular expression searching in DNA sequences (which is "not common" in webapps). To make it fast, most browsers have dedicated regular expression compilers tuned to it. This is pretty much worthless for webapps as a whole (the kinds of regexps involved do not generalize to the ones used in web apps), but it makes sunspider fast.
That's exactly what you don't want :)
An incrementing product revision number is a bit boring, but certainly nowhere near those depths of marketing misery.
[1] This example is semi-fictional because nobody could possibly remember the actual model numbers from that era.
I'm more worried about the original iPad Air still in the lineup. I've got an ipad2, and it's feeling old and slow (without having a newer one to compare to). That's not going to be a long term good purchase.
Now they could afford to, but they don't. Yes, it takes effort to keep those old lines running, but the guys doing that needn't even talk to the ones designing the new versions and the software running on it (those older generations get left behind, OS-wise, don't they?)
Also, today cases and accessories rely on Apple form factor as a platform on which to build - and that's a huge market, and important for consumers and 3rd party vendors... I'd like to think my iPhone6 case (if I owned a 6) would fit the next year's model.
iPod nano with 5 different form factors in 8 years? Ain't nobody got time for dat no more.
http://live.arstechnica.com/apples-october-16-2014-media-eve...
There is a way to get VLC to open the stream, but I haven't had to do it personally.
While they could definitely make all of their events streamable on a wide variety of devices, this tactic makes everyone not in the ecosystem feel as though they've been let down by the technology which they own.
It also ensures that the audience is more Apple-centric, and the first to hear the conference lectures will already be biased in favor of Apple given that they are already Apple users.
Note: before a fervent product enthusiast thinks about hitting that downvote button, I've typed this comment from my very own MBP.
(Yes there was always the resale market, but apple is driving down the price overall. You won't find a used mac mini over 499)
Transferring True-color 5120x2880 at 60 fps requires at least 25GBit/s connection, and no existing connections (on shipped computers) can handle that. The best ones currently are Thunderbolt 2 with 20 GBps, and DisplayPort 1.2 with 17GBps.
Only just a few weeks ago, DisplayPort 1.3 was released, which tops 32Gbps, and upcoming Thunderbolt 3 is promising 40 Gbps. Those two are finally making honest-60fps 27" Retina Display possible, so it should not be long until we see one. (Though of course that will require Apple to update all Macs with Thunderbolt 3 or DP 1.3 ports first)
To even save or display the image from these sensors you'd have to compress the 12/14-bit color range into 8-bit anyways. Single-image HDR is simply the ability to tweak this transform to your benefit.
Direct link: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14pijnadfpv...
I think TWiT do live commentary or something.