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> Worst of all, there are no frequent updates (if any), no autoupdate either.

Is a little odd. Didn't you install the L developer preview by manually downloading the ROM from here: https://developer.android.com/preview/setup-sdk.html and then flashing it yourself? Then you're strangely shocked there isn't a consumer-orientated auto-updater?

I can absolutely see that criticism if the auto-updater didn't exist, wasn't working, or there were no updates upon the retail release of L. For a developer preview you personally installed knowing full well it was a developer preview that criticism is hard to take at all seriously.

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Apple's been supporting this for the last couple years. This year, for instance, I upgraded to iOS 8 when Beta 3 shipped. I then received OTA updates for each subsequent Beta until the final release, which I installed manually. It's unfortunate that Google doesn't offer OTA beta updates, too.

I got a gazillion updates from Yosemite and Xcode.

Yes, but Google's goals was never to run a semi-public beta. The L developer images were provided so that developers can develop/test their apps on L.

Well, that's fine, but then Google failed. Delivering some dated and possibly insecure copy is not how everybody else does it in 2014. There are high standards for prelease software today - other Google projects follow them, so, Android shouldn't be an exception.

This is the first time they're offering a peek into a pre-release of their OS, ever. Apple has done multiple times with a track record of auto-updates, so yes, that can be expected of Apple, and Apple only.

Google never promised updates, never promised stability, it's not a beta, it's not a GM, it's not even alpha. It's simply a preview. You get what they say you get. Don't set iOS's standards on Android, they're completely different products, with completely different cultures, release cycles, everything.

There are a lot of products, Google and otherwise, that go straight to release without any prereleases. If anything Android has has a very strict record of that, so I think your expectations of much more from them on such a large release like L is simply unfounded.

So, because it's first time, but in contrast with their other teams and with other companies, I should be satisfied? You guys are a bunch of low-standards fanboys, especially those who take pleasure in downvoting every single comment I made here as a punitive action against daring to state the obvious. Android prerelease process should improve, I'm not satisfied and I don't care that some people are okay with everything and don't bother to demand more! Even Play Store now has the concept of prelease software that autoupdates! And they have a completely separate static build for Android Fit. Just ridiculous!

> You guys are a bunch of low-standards fanboys, especially those who take pleasure in downvoting every single comment I made here as a punitive action against daring to state the obvious

It's more the terrible quality of your posting. You've been given reasonable answers but instead you respond with demands you have no position to be making.

"Reasonabe" according to a low-standards crowd. I'm a different breed. I demand high-standards from myself and others. There's a fierce competition today, if you haven't noticed. And Google lags behind.

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