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I'm going to use this opportunity to shamelessly plug my tildeclub page: http://tilde.club/~rich

edit: Please also go to my girlfriend's page! She's jealous of my hit counter: http://tilde.club/~arch

The best part, better than all the other really good parts, is the "no cops" legalese at the bottom. I remember seeing that everywhere in the pre-Napster days (i.e. downloading loose MP3s from sites that looked just like yours)

That managed to completely lock up Firefox for me. Nicely done! Think it was a combination of the scrolling page title and right-click handler that did it. Or it was fighting Pentadactyl.

Personally I'm not sure about all this new fangled HTTP stuff. Gopher, ftp and a decent BBS are all I need.

Speaking of which has anyone done a local BBS (i.e. non web) on tilde.club? :-)

~rich reminds me of my NWO Wolfpac page on Angelfire. Also, I'm pretty sure this is what PCP feels like.

I love both pages. They brings back nostalgia. I remember those times fondly, I just started to learn HTML then. The Web those days was different, it felt like a social network itself. I miss it.

Also, your girlfriend seems to be winning now :). Those ASCII-art birds are beautiful.

Those ascii birds are really great on your girlfriend's page.

Your page, however, reminded me of the dreadful Lycos pages I used to see in the late 90s. I don't miss them, but it was true nostalgia - thanks!

Your girlfriend's main page is quite nice.

The frames link, though, reawakened fear I'd not felt in years.

Haven't been to yours, so that her hit counter has a chance to catch up. ;-)

You, sir or ma'am, are a gentleman and a scholar. I literally just created this account to thank you.

PS if you know how to make a link target a frame in a nested frameset, please let me know. It must go deeper.

I haven't dealt with framesets for almost 20 years (I'm still scarred), but I seem to recall that you can target nested frames just by providing them with a unique "name" attribute. I may be wrong though.

You may also want to change the doctype header to use the HTML 4 "frameset.dtd" instead of the "strict.dtd". Just change the first line of your frame-enabled pages to:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">

Or, for extra 90's authenticity, you could use the HTML v3.2 doctype:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">

But what I'm after is recursion. Rather than make 20 individual frameset pages each with different target="name"s, it would be way cooler simply to populate each frame area with itself.

Pedantic props for the doctype tip.

EDIT: In theory this should work, but browsers are uncooperative: http://tilde.club/~arch/frames-odd.html

According to http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-frames-970331 :

"Infinite recursion is prevented. Any frame that attempts to assign as its SRC a URL used by any of its ancestors is treated as if it has no SRC URL at all (basically a blank frame). This doesn't prevent all malicious documents, but it eliminates a troublesome class of them."

Ah well, probably for the best really... It seems to have a recursion limit of 10 on Firefox, and 12 on Chrome.

I cheated by creating your original frameset pattern and then just recursing index.html in the middle frame. It improves the recursion effect a bit, but still isn't infinite.

http://downloads.intermer.net/frames/

Wow, another NYU grad! Rock on. Too bad they didn't keep an archive of my first website way back in 1995.

I actually had, and remember, and certainly ordered from, that exact CCS catalog. What a weird memory you just brought back.

Same here.

heheheh any ideas what I should do? http://tilde.club/~thomas

I love that background color! (I posses no design skills what so ever)

I've been totally missing that green rotating skull and cross bones! I used that thing everywhere!

Sweet! a good old fashioned hit counter where I can just reload and it goes up!

Very nice. Was surprised to see some webkit vendor prefixes in the source.

You absolutely must find a way to make the page take 3 minutes to load.

This might help! http://theonion.github.io/comcastifyjs/

Oh man I had completely forgotten about the obligatory disclaimer.

I cracked up when I saw "The sourcecode is copyright(c)"

that is incredible. I wish I still had my old "pixelclique" ns4+ codebase. Or if I could recall my geocities name maybe I could find earlier work on wayback.

This is awesome man, totally brings back memories.

I loved it.

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