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As an Israeli, I think this is the way to solve this conflict.

Because educated people like them, who want to live a normal life and build a career are the ones who can make a change. Its sad that so many people have to suffer because of a smaller number of religious fanatics that launch rockets from hospitals, dig tunnels into Israel, and are even against peace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Palestinian_militancy_camp...

These people are the kind people who can change that. I really hope these guys succeed in their projects!

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Its sad that so many people have to suffer ...

The whole population of Gaza does not have to suffer. That is a conscious decision made by Israel's political and military leaders.

You can change that. Educated people like you are the way to solve this conflict. Don't wait for the people of Gaza to "change first".

>The whole population of Gaza does not have to suffer

How would you handle neighbors from a densely populated village throwing rockets into your backyard?

You go in, find and arrest those responsible and bring them to trial. Not by bombing entire neighborhoods and assassinations.

How? If Gaza was democratic, like before the 2007 Hamas coop d'etat, I can see how educated people would help.How would they matter? i'm pretty sure if you asked today, almost everyone in Gaza would prefer the Hamas to just go away.

If we judge from history, what they need now is some sort of civil war.

I'm not a starry eyed idealist (most of the time) to think everyone can hold hands and bring peace to the world, but there has to be a peaceful resolution to this somehow.

A civil war is the absolute worst thing that can happen now as that will only bring unimaginable misery and horror to those who are already suffering on all sides of this conflict. Those who stand to profit the most, both politically and economically, will stand clear while shouting the loudest as usual while the most vulnerable and least inclined to commit violence will get caught in the fire.

Yes , a civil war would be awful, but maybe as a result we'll see democracy in Gaza and a chance for peace with Israel.

On the other hand, is there any other realistic scenario where Hamas is replaced by a peaceful party? Or even Hamas being transformed into a peaceful party ? I'd love to hear a realistic one.

>On the other hand, is there any other realistic scenario where Hamas is replaced by a peaceful party? Or even Hamas being transformed into a peaceful party ? I'd love to hear a realistic one.

Yes: the casualties mount until unconditional surrender becomes their best option.

No, that was not supposed to be a pleasant statement to read.

Than what happens ? who takes control of the west bank ?

Most likely answer is a big mess, other militant groups and tribes(hamulut) fighting for control. kind like a civil war.And than who ever wins, you got a new terrorist organization. Hopefully we get one that is willing to work with Israel. But we might not.

But a civil war with the purpose of peace, by peaceful citizens ? Maybe that'll work.

Gaza elected Hamas in a free and fair election, supervised by Israel and the U.S.

And a year after that, Hamas killed the members and support of the other party(fatah), and established a dictatorship. Without that, who knows, the fatah might have been in power today.

Really? Because now Hamas and Fatah have a unity government. I'll have to go read about it some more.

I really hope they succeed too. I also do really hope that both sides agree to roll back the versioning on the borders to what was established soon 70 years ago.

https://www.google.com/search?q=israeli+borders+1948&source=...

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