There is new knowledge here. Perhaps new physics. I slightly wish I was a physicist so that I could go and find out.
There is new knowledge here. Perhaps new physics. I slightly wish I was a physicist so that I could go and find out.
The power levels involved in these devices are 10-20 kW - that much power into anything is capable of heating air and producing currents from convection alone. A microwave cavity is exactly the sort of thing which would make a great make-shift reaction chamber for a very inefficient, very ordinary jet engine of some sort.
I note the Wired article here also makes no mention of whether they tested the device in a vacuum chamber. Its the only test which matters, and no one ever does it, meanwhile they're pumping enough wattage to flash boil water around things.
EDIT: From the NASA abstract as well - "Testing was performed on a low-thrust torsion pendulum that is capable of detecting force at a single-digit micronewton level, within a stainless steel vacuum chamber with the door closed but at ambient atmospheric pressure."
Given what this thing claims to do, and how you have to operate it (allegedly) and the scale of the forces involved (tiny), not testing in an actual, evacuated vacuum chamber is absurd.
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That's certainly a lot easier to believe than the result they got. If, on the other hand, they observed the same sized effect in a decent vacuum, I would be more inclined to believe it. The fact that this test didn't take place in a vacuum, despite already being in a vacuum chamber ought to make people wonder a bit.
Having fed microwaves into vacuum chambers my own self: if the torsion pendulum was already in there, there is absolutely no reason this experiment wasn't run in at least a rough vacuum. I can understand not going to UHV if the cavity things are dirty or have crap which outgasses, but there is no excuse for not running this experiment in a rough vacuum.
There is actually a history of "antigravity" researchers measuring coronal discharge. http://blazelabs.com/l-intro.asp
Sorry, but one of them being Chinese, I would say that there is only one reliable source, and the chances that they made a mistake are high.
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Good science certainly comes out of China, but a lot bad science comes along too.
But when you have to go with your gut, and there are only two sources and one of them is Chinese, I would never reach a conclusion such as: "some new science has clearly been done here"
Why not?
In particular in some fields you can get rich writing grants, getting a considerable amount of money and writing fake papers.
There is a heavy temptation for many to do the same when all of their colleges are able to buy multiple houses and live an extravagant life style. An example from ~5-9 years ago would be a Chinese professor flying to California and buying a multi million dollar vacation house in cash. This is an extreme example and was uncommon even at the time.
My understanding is that this is not the case in all fields, it is easier to get a way with fraud in the less hard sciences supposedly. I also have read about several efforts over the last several years to try and correct matters.
It is also the case that many papers written by non-native english speakers suffer from grammar and spelling errors. Unfortunately incorrect grammar and or spelling often has a negative halo effect for many on the scientific content of the paper.
There is plenty of good science that comes out of China, however it suffers from a negative halo effect from the above sources.
Lots of back scratching that goes on behind closed doors and lots of bogus papers that re-use old results or "recombine" old data in order to get funding for an actual project... really a lot of hogwash and bad science.
Nothing directly to cause fraud where I am tho. Tho I'm sure some publications are better about that than others.
This has the unfortunate side effect that research coming out of China needs to be taken with a grain of salt and extra doubly carefully verified.
It's nothing the scientific method can't handle (we're seeing the start of the verification steps here), but knowing that lots of research coming out of China is misrepresented it introduces another layer of healthy skepticism that it needs to be verified before being accepted as a thing.
Suppose University of Shanghai produces a result, and the University of Beijing confirms it. Rather than accept the result, it's likely that before it's declared "SCIENCE!" a NASA or MIT or whoever is going to want to have verification from someplace that doesn't have a long history of misrepresenting scientific claims.
This is going to be treated differently than if the original work was done at say...CERN and the confirmation was done by CalTech.
[1] http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/02...
Indeed, but unfortunately in western capitalism there is sometimes a financial incentive to report results that aren't favourable even if they are wrong. A bit like what happened with the banks, or with tobacco companies.