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We're hiring - send us a message: http://www.NetizenCorp.com

We have several commercial clients that have systems based heavily on PHP that we are supporting and have been having trouble finding qualified PHP talent, so remote is definitely an option for us.

That same goes for everyone else here. We're looking for solid PHP talent and trying to avoid having to outsource overseas for it. I had a job posting up but it just came down recently out of frustration from the lack of quality applicants - I can re-post again.

UPDATE: Position has been re-posted: http://www.netizencorp.com/careers

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If I might give a bit of advice about finding some better talent. Your listing doesn't list any reasons why someone might choose to work with you. You have the listed requirements that they must have, but there isn't anything in there that would convince me to send you a resume.

Are you working on interesting problems? Do you have a great benefits program? Do you have flexible scheduling? Do your client relationships provide your employees interesting perks? Is there an awesome culture of learning and professional development?

If you are looking for quality developers, they likely already have a job, so try to give them reasons why working with you would improve their current situation. They will likely have the "get a job" problem already taken care of.

There is a good chance your problem finding qualified PHP talent is that your job posting is for entry/mid-level developers.

I'm not knocking entry-level people; we all start there, but when your pool of candidates includes new developers you should expect occasions where their lack of experience is apparent.

Retention could also be a problem in that context because many experienced developers want to work on a product they work hard on and can be proud of. That idea seems to contrast having "several commercial clients", a circumstance which most often translates to speed being prioritized over quality (the inverse of the experienced developer's desire).

I'm currently looking and believe I came across this job posting.

I didn't bother applying because, as mentioned by others, I couldn't figure out what you're actually looking for. Are you looking for "qualified PHP talent" or are you looking for a junior-level developer?

Honestly, I read your job posting as "We want a PHP developer that takes orders well (working under the senior dev) but we don't want to pay for it (entry level with 4-5 years experience)."

Maybe I read it wrong but that's how it came across to me. If that's not the case, feel free to get in touch.

You should really pay attention to the replies to your comment. I have 14 years of development experience and would never apply for this position because I can tell you right now that you're paying well below market. If that's NOT the case, I'd recommend you drop the "Entry/Mid" prefix and add what you're asking for: "Qualified". But expect to pay for it.

> Entry Level

> 4-5 years of web development experience

C'mon, man.

A common problem with PHP jobs is Entry Level salary for devs with 4-5 years of web development experience. That could be keeping the qualified candidates away.

Your job description has this line "The candidate will work under the guidance of a senior web developer who will assign and monitor their development tasks."

I can't think of any sentence more designed to turn off quality candidates.

Also, please drop a hint about pay scales.

Sounds fair enough for a junior to intermediate job. After 5 years I would guess the OP is an intermediate programmer.

Interesting, I figured the position would be a easy fill.

I'll take a look at the posting; Feel free to stalk me at https://github.com/ckdarby

hey I tried to send you a message on your site but it says error occurred when I click send.

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