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First, let me note that it isn't really relevant to complain about a second party as "answer" to criticism of a first one.

Check http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grozny_ballistic_missile_atta...

Or other information about Russian atrocities in that war. (The whole point with drones is that they are pinpoint attacks, with relatively low civilian casualities.)

And USA is a tempering influence, re Gaza. Consider what would happens if Finland or a Baltic country used rocket artillery against St Petersburg? No, better to not consider that... (shudder.)

The same goes for most of your other examples.

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1) That was not what I was doing. He was comparing Russia and the U.S. in the last paragraph, so it was very relevant.

2) If we're talking about atrocities, let's talk about 100,000 casualties in Iraq.(most conservative estimate). Additionally, 2,400 dead from drone strokes. Most, if not all, without due process in Pakistan and Yemen.

3) Tempering influence? Are you serious? Is it tempering to overthrow governments and install new ones while denationalizing oil contracts? I heard Lybia's a democracy now and not a shithole.

U.S. is just as bad as Russia. Your time of being the beacon of light and democracy is gone.

>>Tempering influence? Are you serious? Is it tempering to overthrow governments

"Tempering influence" was specifically about Gaza.

But you know that.

>>100,000 casualties in Iraq

First, let me note I am not defending the Iraq invasion. Not because I cares about the rights of evil juntas, but because it was so badly managed it even increased the suffering.

Second, those in Iraq were mainly killed in a civil war by people also trying to kill Americans. It is not trivial to blame Americans for that...

I think you know that, too.

About drone strikes -- both the Pakistani and Yemeni governments accepted them. In Pakistan unofficially, because the extremists targets polticians/media/etc with the "wrong" opinions.

I think you know that, third...

Etc.

Edit: I might add that I'm not American. Please keep personal attacks relevant at least, propagandist.

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