I'll stick to Sublime Text and Nano when I need some ssh terminal editing. :)
SublimeText isn't that old. Somehow you found out about it, learned its keyboard shortcuts, found out what plugins to install to do your work, and made it your editor.
That's how I learned Vim. I'll admit that I have a bias, and that learning to use something else would be harder.
But here's the thing - the Vim knowledge I have can translate to Visual Studio with a plugin, to XCode with a plugin, and to Eclipse with a plugin. Netbeans, RubyMine, and Webstorm have a Vim plugin as well.
So does SublimeText.
SublimeText's knowledge transfers to the next paid version of SublimeText.
Add on to that its awful configuration language and the fact that it's not really usable out of the box unlike Sublime Text, it's easy to see why some people consider it unmodern and, for them, inferior.
> vim is stuck in terminal land
For people who use a terminal it's not a problem at all.
> It can't have easily navigable GUI menus
I suppose MacVim and GVim don't count. Vimmers usually don't use menus, though.
> it can't really have overlays
And we don't want that gimmick.
> it can't have a minimap
And we don't want that one either.
> it can't have differently sized text
Same.
> It doesn't even have autocomplete for its commands, at least out of the box, which would make it significantly more usable without disappearing into help files every time I want to do something I don't do often.
It has tab-completion, though.
> Add on to that its awful configuration language
set showmode
> and the fact that it's not really usable out of the box unlike Sublime Text, it's easy to see why some people consider it unmodern and, for them, inferior.
To be honest, if Sublime Text had been available for Mac OS X and Linux when I was looking for a cross-platform TextMate alternative I would have switched to it in a heartbeat. But I chose vim out of a very large pool of editors/IDEs and, frankly, using anything else is now a PITA.
I'm actually quite comfortable with Vim's perceived learning curve: it keeps the most superficial users out of our ecosystem.
Literally the dumbest thing I've read on HackerNews. https://twitter.com/shit_hn_says material.
Why would you even care who uses what or belongs to your 'ecosystem'? What?!
First, Vim emulation widgets vary a great deal in quality, supporting different, disjoint subsets of Vim functionality. Just as an example, ideaVim doesn't support Ctrl-W for navigating between panes. The deeper your knowledge of Vim, the more diminishing returns you get.
Second, Sublime Text's Vintage mode supports enough of my Vim workflow that it's actually made me faster with Vim and other Vim emulation widgets. To the extent that any Vim emulation mode overlaps with Vim, I have improved across the board. Of course this is true mostly for the less deep features IME.
Yeah, I know one of these people too. I know one for Emacs, Eclipse, Excel and of course SublimeText.
Honestly, I don't see why some folks obsess over text editors/IDEs. Familiarity and mastery matter way more than features. Sure, a truly barebone editor like Notepad.exe or nano might be insufficient, but any editor with a decently-sized following has enough features to make its users comparably productive - as long as you learn how to use them (This is almost a self-fulfilling claim: if an editor has a sizable following, that means it got something right for its users).
I mean, how else do we explain that Rob Pike uses Acme, Joshua Bloch uses Emacs to write Java, and Paul Graham uses vi to write code and prose?
I am sure I have read that part somewhere:
> Honestly, I don't see why some folks obsess over text editors/IDEs. Familiarity and mastery matter way more than features. Sure, a truly barebone
Are you quoting someone ? I think I read something like this some years ago and it turned into a short-lived meme about text editors.
Or am I experiencing some kind of déjà-vu ?