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Detroit had been in decline for many, many decades. It hit bottom and is getting better.
This is absolutely untrue. I live in Detroit and work with its property data on a daily basis. The physical state of the city has deteriorated significantly since the financial crisis of 2008-9.
The downtown that is resurgent encompasses 7.2 of 139 square miles. Most of the city has not bottomed out. People continue to leave, properties continue to burn, and the news of Detroit's resurgence remains greatly overstated.
Take a look here to see how Detroit has fared since 2008:
Those are interesting photos, but how do we know whether they are representative of an overall trend? Those locations seem to be selected manually to show houses in decay -- it's not a random sample, and it's probably not a representative sample.
Nobody doubts that there are decaying buildings in Detroit, but to see how Detroit has faired overall, you would need to look at the big picture, including properties that have been restored or rebuilt, but that weblog doesn't show that.
The resurgence does absolutely have to do with the sense of pride in the city, and the sense that it is a city for doing business, both required for the city to come back. Neither of those help houses neglected for decades on remote strips of perilous streets with no rational civic services.
They're the people fleeing the problems of Detroit and leaving it to burn while they watch from next door.
This has been true for a while, but somehow didn't prevent the city from hitting rock-bottom. How is this relevant now?
They are also gated communities that have the worst "Fuck You, Got Mine" mentality. Mostly white and heavily racist, to the point where companies require their delivery-people who serve those areas to be white (because people in those neighborhoods won't open their doors for blacks).
Seriously, a very small part of the city core may be rebounding, but Detroit as a whole will remain a hell-hole for at least a decade.
Oh, so what mentality would you like them to have? How about:
"Here, come on in, we missed you since the last riot!"
I'm completely not understanding this weird jump of yours where you go from "gated communities" to stereotyping such behavior as one that is due to a "Fuck You, Got Mine" attitude. Oh and it's mostly by racist white people, according to you.
Just let people be, and quit trying to meddle. It's really not rocket science. Why do you have to vilify people you don't like? If they were doing something truly bad, then you wouldn't need to vilify them by calling them racists or selfish.
I think, deep down, you know you have no argument. And you're simply fishing for approval by throwing around boogey-words that people are accustomed to reacting to in the way you want.
Having experienced it, and coming from a family that did, basically, just that, the "f-ck you I've got mine" is what drove a lot of that behavior. It could be more accurately expressed as "f-ck you guys, I'm out of here because I have the social, financial, and legal methods to do so," since a lot of the "good" neighborhoods had redlining practices that predated the mass exodus and, even though they became illegal, were still quietly, subtly enforced by real estate agents, mortgage brokers, and nearby property owners. A major symbol of white flight is the rise of the gated community. They gave a way to erect a literal barricade against the undesirables, regardless of skin color but always against "shady" characters.
The last problem is that white flight, and subsequent "I have money"-flight (again, regardless of skin color), essentially drained the urban cities like Detroit, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and Chicago. Some of these are bouncing back--like Dallas--and some not so much. Areas we think of as "Chicago" are, in fact, separate legal municipalities propped up by the massive influx of wealth. The people who lived there commuted into the urban cores, generally on highways paid for on the backs of the people left in the urban areas, to jobs that contribute little to the city where they are located, and then fled back to their quiet suburb where they could enjoy "having theirs."
Is there anything, individually, wrong with what they did? Absolutely not. Those who "fled" took the opportunities available to do them and did so out of an interest of self-worth. The whole point behind flinging "f-ck you, I got mine" as a derogatory remark is that it is half taking out frustrations on a societal dysfunction, half human nature.
I used to live in Pittsburgh and commute out to a small town outside the city limits. I enjoyed being near my friends and everything the city had to offer, but I didn't resent people who lived outside the city limits.
Highways aren't "paid for on the backs of the people left in the urban areas." They're paid for out of gasoline taxes. We might be better off with more mass transit, but that's kind of a different discussion.
When I was in downtown Detroit a few years ago, I did notice a distinct lack of public transit options. But it is bitterly cold in Detroit, and it is difficult to imagine the kind of cafe culture taking root there that you see in other places. I had trouble going outside because I had not brought a ski mask, and there was a stiff breeze coming off the lake and a subzero temperature that day. I also remember there being a lot of churches with bars on the windows, like prisons. I don't know what was up with that-- I guess it's an anti-riot measure?
I hope they succeed in revitalizing the area... it is a shame how far it has fallen since the glory days.
I think the "grit" brand positioning fits... since most of the brands trying to tie into Detroit are luxury. I think it will work well. But I don't think you could market many things to the average American using Brand Detroit.
Maybe cars ... that Eminem Chrysler 300 commercial was pretty good.
Just saying that the view of a Canadian, or Frenchman, or a German of Detroit will, in all likelihood, be different from the view of an American of Detroit...
Even though none of the people holding the opinions French, Canadian, German or American have actually ever visited Detroit.
You don't have to go far to find Canadians who view Detroit as a North American Mogadishu. Such an opinion has a strong correlation with racism, it's worth noting: Detroit must be the perilous worst because it is held to represent black America.
As to the "never actually visited", do you claim that most, or even a remote minority of Americans have "actually ever visited Detroit"? Of course they haven't. They laugh and point and repost and share the ruin porn because, ha ha, look at Detroit.
In any case, it was a pretty bizarre claim to use in response to my post given that I expressly said that I go to Detroit almost regularly. Indeed, "Canadians" in Southern Ontario almost certainly know more about Detroit than the bulk of Americans, for obvious geographical and practicality reasons.
Now maybe I'm not going to the "real" Detroit in some people's opinion, in that I am in built up urban areas and affluent suburbs, but it is a part of the whole of Detroit.
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I said that most of the people who have opinions on Detroit... American or not... have never been there.
I'm curious as to what exactly you are refuting ??? Or if you are just agreeing with me ???
Until all that urban blight is settled Detroit isn't back. This is just a game to get the bonds people and such back in the game after bankruptcy goes through.