Comment by rartichoke | Hacker News Reader

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Are you a Netflix subscriber? Their interface is pretty good. It's about as good as you can ask for given the technology we have and the selection that Netflix has.

Things are broken up by genre or new releases just like they used to be in video stores because it's pretty intuitive way to browse movies. "I feel like watching something funny, show me all comedies". Netflix also takes it 1 step further and tries to sort it by relevance based on previous watches.

Their interface for DVD players is quite good too. The search is smart and it only takes seconds to go from the DVD player being off to watching a stream from Netflix.

I rarely load up Netflix knowing exactly what I want to watch. I have ideas based on genre what I want and Netflix lets me browse reasonably. I've been a sub for almost as long as they've been around and I still find good stuff. The only thing that lacks is newer releases on stream but you can blame the media providers for that.

My cable provider sometimes offers free access for a month to their on demand/pay per month movie service and it's a joke. Things are listed alphabetically with 90 pages to go through or it's by genre but you're stuck going through 28 pages of alphabetical results where you see nothing but the movie title and a 1 sentence plot. It's an awful user experience.

I think you're being biased here. Netflix's device interface is ho-hum (eg on the playstation entering text for search strings is painful) and they only have a 1-2 sentence description as well. They do try to sort things by relevance but they frequently get it wrong and I can 't depend on the same genres being there from session to session or having the same names. For example, I used to have a genre called 'horror movies'; after I watched a few different cartoon shows in a row one weekend that went away and instead I got a new genre called 'Scary Movies' with mostly PG-13 rather than R-rated content. Now I wasn't so into horror movies to begin with, but if I was this would be quite annoying. I do like Sci-Fi movies but but my options for curating my own genre selections are very limited, so I wind up thorwing everything into 'my list' in case I can't find again later.

The cable interface is also bad, but things are broken out by genre and broadcast station (eg some people prefer HBO stuff). It's a bit annoying because it's slower and I have to use a remote control, but that hasn't prevented my finding things I want to watch. Neither side is going to win by interface, but on selection; Netflix has fewer hits but more depth, Cable offers more populist and newer stuff.

I never tried accessing it through a console. Only through a fairly modern $40ish DVD player and a web browser, no complaints.

I'd drop them instantly without thinking twice if a better solution existed with equal or better selection, cheaper prices and more promising short term goals.

You still need to think about what you want to watch, and deliberately make it happen. A very large market segment wants no more than a half-dozen choices, pick one, and let it run indefinitely.

For the same reason, the 90 page channel listing, dominated by "your not subscribed to this but we're going to show it to you anyway in hopes you might upgrade to include it" and "here's 37 duplicate channels all showing the same movie at slightly offset timeslots", has got to be driving people away - many staying only because there isn't a brain-dead-easy option hearkening to the days of 4 channels.

This is a great point. The 8 billion channel situation with an unusable guide channel seems like it was put together and maintained by a bunch of cokeheads with no sense of a sane user experience.

The menu I was talking about wasn't the typical channel listing. That's even worse to the point where I never use it. When I goto my friend's house where he has a ton of premium channels you can literally spend 3 hours just looking through that list to find something.

I hope that market segment with half a dozen choices never becomes fully main stream. I like choice in moderation (ie. web frameworks with opinions) but movies are just entirely different.

There's just too many interesting genres and type of movies to filter a list of 100,000 movies down to a handful. It's a very complicated problem to solve and might be unsolvable until we have huge break throughs in how machines process human input.

Example, how would you solve this problem: Customer A watches 5 comedies in a row then is proposed a choice of 3 movies. 1 comedy, 1 sci-fi and 1 romance.

If customer A picks the sci-fi movie you cannot conclude that he didn't like the comedy or romance choices. He just happened to prefer watching a sci-fi movie that night. You don't even know the outside conditions too. Maybe his friend is over sitting in the room while they pick the movie, you simply cannot know.

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