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> Wiretapping members of the UN Security Council

You realize that is part of the reason we have the NSA, right? Only in a fantasy world do the other members not attempt to spy on the US. The reason why the NSA spying issue is wrong is because they were violating the consitutional rights of US Citizens. The German Chancellor is not a US Citizen and we have every reason to spy on her, the same goes for every other country in the world.

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> The German Chancellor is not a US Citizen and we have every reason to spy on her, the same goes for every other country in the world.

This is so wrong.

It's only right if you believe there's no cost to your spying being uncovered.

If you don't think there's any cost to being caught spying, I welcome you to try spying on someone, anyone. Then you can answer the question of "Is it worth it?" which leads directly into "Is it a good idea?"

But it's reality.

So is murder, rape, starvation, racism, and lots of stuff I think is bad. I'm not sure I understand your point.

TIL only US citizens are people

No, today you learned it's only illegal for the US gov't to spy on US citizens. Spying isn't rape or murder. It's a thing that gov't does to know what's going on behind their backs. Do we have a problem with spying on Russia or China? No. Just France and Germany. Why?

What you're saying doesn't change the point that someone who promoted mass surveillance is now a director of a data storage and security company. These are directly opposite ideals.

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