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Can someone recommend hosting providers which offer RoundCube?

Gandi does, and you do not need to buy webspace from them. Just registering a domain there will get you 5 free mailboxes and 1000 forwarding addresses.

https://www.gandi.net/domain

I'm not on a crusade or something, but they were not for me.

Do better than I did, give them little money and take your time before you expect them to be the right company.

1: Just replied in a different thread, incident is fresh: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7557887

I believe any host that runs cPanel should have it. Or at least that's my experience.

But no one "sane" would recommend a cPanel host, don't shovel shit at friends..

I don't get the hate. I use gmail and roundcube (on a cPanel host) on a daily basis. cPanel hosting is really easy to use and maintain. With a good hosting company, what's the issue?

It's a user interface instead of a semantic interface—you're stuck with clicking around to maintain your site and your hands are tied with your ability to actually change something about it.

Examples of a semantic interface, or changes that a "normal" person would make to their hosting that cPanel doesn't allow would be good to illustrate your point.

Upgrading SSL software.

There's nothing to get, the hate is completely irrational. Those who belittle shared hosting, or the idea of cPanel have their head so far up their own tech-infused ass that they don't understand most people, hell even most techies don't want to manage their own web or email server.

cPanel has the security reputation of pre-3.0 Wordpress. It's a real-world, actual problem; in a shared hosting environment, cPanel adds a lot of risk for your customers.

Here's a list of CVEs for cPanel from 2010 back: http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1766/...

andalso: http://www.exploit-db.com/search/?action=search&filter_page=...

I dunno why those lists both stop at around 2010. cPanel is still being actively compromised: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1267400

There's a fair chance that cPanel is the hole that regularly gives heartburn to some providers, like GoDaddy. For example, http://blog.sucuri.net/2011/09/godaddy-shared-servers-compro...

cPanel is popular, and it solves a lot of problems for a lot of people. Because it's so common, people who don't otherwise know their way around web hosting can feel right at home when using cPanel. I don't have some kind of irrational, hipster-esque or elitist hatred for it; I simply think that I can't in good conscience install it and knowingly put my hosting customers at risk.

Depends on needs, as there are some pretty sane people who don't want to be IT support for all their friends hosting small projects, and don't want to have to install and manage alternative control panels for them. Bugs, issues, quirks and all, cPanel and hosts that offer it may be fine for folks with limited needs or relatively clean/secure apps.

But sure, for the most savvy of devs and ops people, cPanel hosts may not be the right setup.

shrug I've never had any particular issues with it, but admittedly it's all I've ever used since it's what most shared hosting providers have. And before anyone suggests it, I don't have the money/desire/need to move off of shared hosting for anything I do.

Bytemark do.

Gandi.net does.

HostGator

Namecheap

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