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Do you have more info on the cleanup in Java 9? Will they remove some deprecated methods then?

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This talk has some good (and official) information: http://parleys.com/play/52549d02e4b0a43ac12124be

How do deprecated methods affect you? Just curious. Maybe I'm missing something.

In my opinion, they don't. If you use an IDE like Eclipse where deprecated methods are clearly marked by a strikethrough and marked with a compiler warning, I don't see the big deal. And the bonus is that old code still compiles with new versions (and there is something to be said for backwards compatibility, a la "This presentation is not compatible with Keynote" discussion from a few days ago)

Methods are marked as deprecated when they're planned to be removed in the next version.

That's the story that gets told, but how often have they actually removed something after deprecating it? Does anybody have a single concrete example of a method that actually went away?

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18063599/has-ever-anythin...

I don't believe they have ever removed a Class or method from the JDK... Thread still has all of those super-unsafe or non-implemented methods in it (see: stop(), destroy() etc.)

I think part of the reason for this ultra-conservative approach might be that alternate JVM implementations could in theory have well-implemented versions of deprecated methods such as the above-mentioned Thread ones.

No, they (Sun) could not care less for alternate JVM implementations. The reason for that ultra-conservative approach was that they were hell bent on keeping compatibility.

System.getenv was deprecated (in 1.1?), and then replaced with an implementation that threw UnsupportedOperationException (in 1.2?) because it was considered to be non-portable.

Later they saw sense and re-implemented it and un-deprecated it.

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