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I wouldn't trust anything on Anadolu Agency which is owned by the current religious fascist Turkish government which is against Syria ONLY because they are from different Islamic fraction. The government wants to see religious fascists in power in Syria. Those things in the pictures were probably done by the barbaric islamic fundamentalist rebels.

Most Turkish people are against the government's senseless war against Syria. In last few weeks the government was caught sending military equipment to the barbaric islamic syrian rebels many times.

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For a long time, it was impossible to reach Syrian Government news agency SANA's website, as it was banned without any notice or court order.

That was when the war started, and only news Turkish people got were Turkish Government's and international war lobyyists' lies through Anadolu Agency's black propaganda.

Turkey still keeps supporting the war in Syria by sending ammunition, weapons and other stuff to rebels. Our border gates are wide open for the rebels. Some of them live in Turkey's border cities such as Hatay.

For the last few weeks there has been at least eight trucks which were intercepted. They all were later protected by turkish national intelligence agency, governors, the ministers and prime minister himself, claiming what the trucks carried were governmental secret and nobodies' business. Of course the trucks moved and people had to mind their own business.

There has been a lot of misinformation incidents in Turkey, through government's hand, and a lot of inhuman incidents by those criminal-rebel looters that we witness. Then I still sometimes get surprised when people tell about the Free Syrian Army is defending Syria against an anti-democratic regime. I don't believe that those are for democracy, and everyone knows that those lies will be revealed one day.

Sure thing hoss. Here is the story[0] associated with the photos.

"Syrian government officials could face war crimes charges in the light of a huge cache of evidence smuggled out of the country showing the "systematic killing" of about 11,000 detainees, according to three eminent international lawyers.

The three, former prosecutors at the criminal tribunals for the former Yugoslavia and Sierra Leone, examined thousands of Syrian government photographs and files recording deaths in the custody of regime security forces from March 2011 to last August."

OK so you are adamant that it was not the regime who tortured and executed people, that the photos were due to those nasty Islamists. How about a report pre-dating the previous on the Assad regime's Raid Brigade, amongst others in the Damascus area. Was the industrious kidnapping and murder of detainees by military also a false flag? Branch 215, Raid Brigade - Military Intelligence Division - Damascus[1].

[0] http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/20/evidence-indust...

[1] http://www.vdc-sy.info/index.php/en/reports/1380463510#.UuIv...

Yeah something should be done, and what else is better than barbaric islamic fundamentalist rebels, beheading war criminals, and bloodshed murderers, supported by international bloodthirsty, greedy media cartels.

We should support them as they are fighting against an anti-democratic regime. We will think about the other aspects, once democracy is settled, democracy first.

Way to respond with a comment that is contextual with what I said.

You really didn't conflate my detailing mass murder with support for other murderers at all there. If you did one could say it would be highly detrimental to discussion. Good thing you didn't though.

edit: I do love me tried and true tactics like what inanov and throwaway display. Anything said against a subject they feel strongly about is means to deny what is said then distort who is speaking. At the very least a lot of accusations and insinuations not relating to the original subject being discussed will be brought up adding noise to the signal. For a very topical example here is the regime's Syrian State TV split screening opposition talking at Geneva2 with stock footage of bombing carnage[0].

[0] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BekwsuACIAA2gQr.jpg:large

In turkey, current government divides people into two groups (done through media, NGO's etc.): Pro-Assad, and Anti-Assad. Even though you do not fancy the guy, one morning when you wake up, you find yourself a Pro-Assad.

Even though you scream out that you are against war, and any crimes by persons or governments should be judged by an independent court, and war is not a solution, you still are a Pro-Assad. After sometime, I found out that this is not a local situation, this applies to the whole world. I know that once these are over, no war crimes will be punished, they will be loosely covered.

I remember when turkish prime minister visited Assad, handshakes, good wills. A few months later, you see that this same prime minister, just in a moment, starts to tell exact same words with some other governments which are very impatient to start a war (as if they were reading from a paper).

I know that no government is clean, they all have hands in blood, blood of a minority, another country or nation etc. Assad is not an exception but I believe that the other side of this war is not clean either. After seeing a lot of lies being told by the Turkish government and the media, I am more sure that this is not a fair fight, and this is not about Assad torturing the Syrian citizens. And I know that supporting bloodshed beheading islamic fundamentalist murderers is far from willing goodness of Syrian people.

>> For a very topical example here is the regime's Syrian State TV split screening opposition talking at Geneva2 with stock footage of bombing carnage[0].

Then, you should come and see the major turkish media. I will gladly translate every single word for you.

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