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I'm not sure what this guy is looking for. Regardless of whether the display is 6-bit, or just 8-bit that looks crap, you're still going to have a problem. Unless you're harboring a fantasy that Apple will give you a MacBook with a custom screen as way of an apology.

They've offered you a refund. Take the money and use it to buy the 15" MacBook with a better screen. And this time try checking out the product to make sure it meets your needs before splashing down thousands of dollars.

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I think the point he is making is that if someone were to check the only information available, "millions of colors" on apple's website, is false.

EDIT: and as a side quest, he is trying to get them to admit that their pro product doesn't have pro specs.

Define pro.

I dunno, "pro" for a graphic artist probably includes "actually displaying millions of colors instead of dithering so I can actually tell what color it is."

Sure, but show me where Apple defines "Pro" as "Pro for a graphic artist"?

sure, here you go: http://www.apple.com/pro/

Nice. I love the particularly relevant blurb at the bottom:

"Whether you’re a designer, photographer, or any kind of creative pro who deals with visual material, you face the daunting task of getting your colors just right. [...] Learn how you can make the most of your Mac to maximize the effectiveness of your colors."

Exactly: it's something people make up on the spot to justify whatever complaint they have with a "pro" product.

You didn't read the article. He would be glad to upgrade to the 15" MacBook but Apple will not tell him if it's a true 8-bit display.

He's simply wants the TRUE specs on the machine.

Yeah, and they don't want to tell him. So...

He can either A) do a google search (which indicates that yes, the 15" does have 8-bit color) or B) Give up on Apple and get a different brand/OS

Sadly no, MBP15 has also 6-bit TN display.

Can you back up this assertion? Since one person in this topic already said that the 15 inch model does have 8bit and you just say that it doesn't, how am I supposed to believe you?

Well, there are very few notebooks with other than TN displays. Thinkpads used to have IPS, but since the introduction of latest generation (T400, T500), they have TN too. For a very short list, see a poster above (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=706579), he mentions one HP, one Lenovo model with optional IPS (W in series designation means workstation) and one Sony model.

If it's so obvious and important to his professional work why doesn't he drag his ass into the Apple store where he bought his MacBook and check out the screens of all available models? This would have been advised before buying the 13" machine, but hey at least he can get a refund. Apple already "misled" him, so why does he care what they say? Walk into the store and check for yourself. Or can he not tell the difference?

Might sound like a smart ass remark but if he can't tell by looking at the displays in person whether they're 8-bit or 6-bit, then I can see why 99% of laptops on the market use 6-bit panels. I fully understand that when you compare them side-by-side you can see the difference. But I remember looking into which LCD panels were actually 8-bit and I could count the number of laptops (2 years ago) which were using these panels on one hand.

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