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As a designer, I love hearing what developers want. I always hope the process is going to be a two-way conversation. It helps me a great deal to hear what the developer wants. I also agree that if you're going to design for the web, in PS, you had better at least have a basic understanding of how HTML works and how a web page is put together.

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The best PSD I ever recieved had a layer exclusively reserved for annotating margins and spacing. I didn't have to dig into the PSD and check the toolbar, all of the figures I needed were right there.

It even came with a PDF style guide outlining line spacing, font size, colors in hex and margins/padding.

I've never been so elated to get a PSD.

Thanks for understanding. I was really hoping that the original comment wouldn't come through as a rant about designers in general, but more as a list of things that good designers should avoid. I think most dev shops can do very well to hire at least one competent designer instead of trying to separate the design phase and the development phase and outsource the design.

It may have been a rant, but there was some great info in there. Being a designer, I didn't take offense at all. Many designers don't want to "get there hands dirty" with html, but I think that's changing, especially as there are newer designers that have never designed for print entering the market.

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