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You're really going to argue that more men are raped than women in America?

> You're really going to argue that more men are raped than women in America?

No, I'm going to argue that if you choose to make an argument implicitly premised on the different rape victimization by sex, you can't support it with just an unsupported statistic for one sex.

http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assau...

> About 3% of American men — or 1 in 33 — have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.1

> In 2003, 1 in every ten rape victims were male.2

Male rape is highly stigmatized, my uncle was raped and never reported it. Reported != Actual.

> Male rape is highly stigmatized

Incidentally, this (even assuming reliable victimization stats that weren't distorted by it) is one of the reasons why I wouldn't assume that the threat was necessarily less serious issued against a male based simply on victimization stats indicating that women were more likely to be victimized.

That's a great point, and I completely agree that reported stats are not equal to the actual stats. I would still say that there are more women raped in America than men.

I would say that there are more women reporting rape in America than men asserting anything other than that is your opinion.

You would be lying if you did that.

http://betweenletters.quora.com/More-Men-Are-Raped-In-the-US...

That article didn't cite any of its data, and it even conflates reported rapes with rape estimates.

It's US Justice Department figures.

It's not an argument, it's a fact.

http://betweenletters.quora.com/More-Men-Are-Raped-In-the-US...

TIL, thanks for the link. However, I don't think they have xbox live in prison.

> However, I don't think they have xbox live in prison.

People who have been in prison can, quite easily, have Xbox Live.

Not with the sentence lengths and recidivism rates of our justice system. Do you know how hard it is to get a job and stay out of prison with something like a felony on your record?

> Not with the sentence lengths and recidivism rates of our justice system.

There's very many more ex-prisoners in the US than prisoners, so that's manifestly false. (As of 2008, about 1.5 million prisoners and 5.5 million ex-prisoners [1].)

[1] http://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/ex-offenders-2010...

You're wasting your time. Xboxes has nothing to do with your claim. You made a claim about women being victims of actual rape more often. That is a lie. You got caught lying.

Oookay buddy. I didn't know about the prison statistics. I do now, and I even thanked you for providing the link. It has everything to do with the argument, because we're talking about online harassment, which you can't do or be a victim of if you're in prison.

No. You made a specific claim about women being the victims of rape more often. That got debunked as a lie, and yet you're repeating the claim all over the thread. You can't claim ignorance at this point. You're malicious.

Check timestamps?

Stop lying.

Stop trolling.

Stop trying to derail. Stop lying. Stop using hate speech.

Don't believe that link. It's garbage designed to pander to women-hating adolescents — a group that the person you replied to has no problem flaunting his affiliation with.

Being the most raped sex isnt a prize to be coveted, I think he is trying to point out (while immaturely) that the stats quoted by pyrocat where not fair and where heavily biased.

What's immature about calling out lies and hate speech?

Nothing, and in part I agree with you, but your delivery leaves cracks for them to bully you while ignoring what your saying.

I appreciate your concern, but these people are not capable of bullying me. They cannot get to me. I know their mentality and their tactics inside and out.

Thanks, I figured that out eventually.

Don't believe this poster. She's garbage designed to pander to man-hating female supremacists - a group that the person I just replied to has no problem flaunting her affiliation with.

You talked about real rape, and so did I. Moving goalposts gets you nothing.

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