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So this is an Android fork with UI improvements?

It's a phone from a small finnish company with a new (as in not MS, Google or Apple) operating system, that happens to have an Android compatibility layer, so you can run native Sailfish apps and Android apps.

If you happen to have heard of the N900, it's the team who made that one. They founded their own company after Nokia sold its soul to MS.

You know, I wasn't trying to be a troll. Nokia is a large business that makes money just like other businesses. I think its strange to generalize them the same way that we do people...

Nokia had a soul? It was a corporation.

Corporate social responsibility could be thought of as (a part of) a soul of a company.

http://www.nokia.com/global/about-nokia/people-and-planet/st...

If sustainability and social responsibility reports are what make up (a part of) the soul of a company, Nokia is in good hands.

http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/re...

It's not a person. Microsoft has statements like that. Why don't they have a soul? I'm actually not trying to be flippant. I think that people need to question their assumptions about "companies as people"...Nokia didn't "have a soul". It was a business. The fact that people think it did reflects more on their marketing than anything else.

Have you seen Hank Poulsen's documentary about precious materials that make it into mobiles? He referred to Nokia as a company that does not do bad and is responsible.

If only to force/guilt-trip companies to do better and be responsible to their workforce, customers, supply chain, country etc., I am going to talk about companies and their soul.

http://bloodinthemobile.org/

OK. Fair enough. That doesn't not make Nokia a sentient entity with "a soul".

It's a business that has a fair degree of social responsibility in its business plans.

My point with this isn't to be pedantic...I'm trying to say that referring to them in this way plays into the larger picture where it is in all businesses interest to have us refer to them as a person. They aren't.

No, this is the current state of Nokia’s Meego OS.

No, it is a Mer-derived Linux with Qt as the UI toolkit. The OS is called Sailfish.

The Android app capability comes from an Android runtime. I have not tried it myself but the compatibility layer could come from Myriad's "Turbo Dalvik," which is something I heard rumored some time ago, or Jolla might have done it themselves.

Is as much android as BB10, in fact have a lot in common with Blackberry 10 like the user interface or being based on QT/QML for native apps.

If you want, is a maemo/meego fork, with a compatibility layer to run Android apps, and won't be surprised if it runs also Firefox OS, Tizen and Ubuntu Touch apps in some moment.

Looks like it isn't a direct Android fork but does use the Android app runtime.

Jolla is based on what was left of Nokia's Maemo/Meego.

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