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> In reality of course, most of us don't have that problem, never had and never will

Maybe you never had any problems, but I don't believe "most of us" can say the same. At least me, I'd encountered problems derived from join-abuse in almost every job I've had.

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That's funny, because I've mostly encountered problems with people who prefer to nest SQL queries inside a sucession of loops in their code, rather than learn how to use SQL properly.

Yeah, me too. But having said that, I've also seen problems with mongodb and they're much, much, much, much harder to solve.

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