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Comment by jamesrom | Hacker News Reader

When has Apple ever been dishonest to customers?

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/07/02Letter-from-Apple-...

> "We have discovered the cause of this dramatic drop in bars, and it is both simple and surprising."

> "Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong. Our formula, in many instances, mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength. For example, we sometimes display 4 bars when we should be displaying as few as 2 bars."

People were actually meant to believe that Apple had a software bug for how they calculate signal strength all the way up to the 4th iPhone and instead not scratching AT&T's back making their network look better than it was.

You know, this Apple with the futuristic wireless testing facility: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/inside-apples-black-lab-w...

So your proof that Apple is dishonest is a letter from Apple being candidly honest about their mistakes?

..only because you asked, but every large multi-national company is essentially the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._litigation

None of those cases are about false advertising or dishonesty.

Apple lied so badly in the UK they were forced to put an apology message on their homepage with specific wording dictated by a court.

So uh, yeah.

Well, no. They accused Samsung of lying and a judge found in Samsung's favour. Interestingly enough, the very same judge is now "consulting" for Samsung.

You read too much AppleInsider. The truth is nothing like that:

  Sir Robin Jacob said Apple had published "false and misleading" material, and
  suggested the firm had shown a "lack of integrity" by saying staff would need
  two weeks to make "minor changes" to the company website.

  This month the court of appeal ruled against Apple after Samsung complained
  about a notice Apple posted online acknowledging defeat in a design dispute
  at the high court. Samsung said Apple had added an account of court proceedings
  in Germany and the US which was "inaccurate and misleading".

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/nov/09/judge-appl...

How snide of you. Do you feel clever now? Jacob was the only judge to find this way and, as pointed out, is now in the employ of Samsung. I'd argue that this particular version of the "truth", clearly the one you are choosing over the several that disagree, is highly questionable. Linking a newspaper doesn't make this ruling anymore valid either.

There's no versions of the truth. Clearly you didn't even bother to read the article:

  Three judges – Jacob, Lord Justice Longmore and Lord
  Justice Kitchin – agreed that the statement did not
  comply with a court order and said Apple should post
  another statement. On Friday they gave their written
  reasons.

Stop being such a ridiculous fanboy.

You are quite right. I didn't. It doesn't change the fact that only one jurisdiction found in Samsung's favour. One. The lead judge now works for Samsung. That doesn't make you suspicious of his judgment? Longmore and Kitchin were ruling on whether or not Apple were complying with their colleagues order, nothing else. Here you are clutching at a single straw, calling me a ridiculous fanboy and suggesting that I am the one with a bias. I tell you what, when you want to discuss this like an adult we'll continue, until then grow the fuck up.

I should make a whole wiki :)

1) Mac Color coming in 6 - 12 months (Caused me to not have a new computer for 3 years)

2) NO viruses and NO malware (No OS can ever say that) http://mac-antivirus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/histo...

3) Power PC fastest CPU in the WORLD (Than Intel CPU 6-7 times faster "who knew")

4) Antenna Gate "Your holding it wrong"

5) iMessage is unreadable by Apple (Proven wrong when reverse engineered)

6) The iPhone and iPod Touch screens (Wow how many times did we see people with destroyed screens over the years)

These are just off the top of my head BUT there is so much more. I just would NEVER trust them

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