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Yes, cry me a river. Supposedly "allied" governments have no qualms spying on each other, or engaging in "economic intelligence" for the military-industrial lobby. Would the French DGSE (or other western intelligence agencies) engage in large-scale surveillance of their own citizens, let alone foreigners, if they believed they could get away with it? You bet.

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>Would the French DGSE (or other western intelligence agencies) engage in large-scale surveillance of their own citizens

They most certainly do:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/04/france-electron...

In an interview of Larry Ellison Charlie Rose this past summer, Larry described the French blatantly going through all his electronics when he traveled over there.

Disappointingly and not surprisingly he didn't have a problem with the allegations against the NSA.

Something to consider is that points of interest differ within governments. For example, fugitive Marc Rich was believed to have been aided by the US State Department even as the DOJ continuously attempted to kidnap him. In other countries you even end up with military coups when one group really is unhappy with another. On the other hand, there is a lot of noise making in countries with representative elections, which means little.

Edit: I would not be surprised if we start seeing criminal indictments against executives of US internet companies in some countries.

They do. If you can read French, check out http://reflets.info/.

Really suspicious looking site, bro.

it's actually serious, one of the guys got published in the Canard Enchaîné and for example revealed some FBI files on US citizens 8 years before the Washington Post did.

What exactly do you find suspicious?

It's understandable, and it's something that Reflets.info editors acknoledge: use of memes (lolcats for instance) does not look "pro", and there are opinion and rant posts along with very profound and detailed in-depth investigation articles.

You know, don't judge a blog by its cover ;-).

What he said.

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