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I don't know what "v...t" or "o...p.....s" means but consider that you might be confusing the cause and effect here: assuming that there's correlation between consuming $WEIRD_PORN and being unable to have normal relationships [1] it may not be that people become unable to have those relationships due to exposure to $WEIRD_PORN so much as that people who turn to $WEIRD_PORN were already unable to have them. This creates demand and $WEIRD_PORN gets produced.

[1] "Normal" a defined by a given society.

Edit: removed a comparison of the parent poster's argument to "violent video games make people violent".

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Frankly, I think the parallel between "weird porn makes you weird sexually" and "violent video games make you violent" is pretty straightforward.

My point is about porn in general. I'm from a generation that did not have access to porn easily. today some 12 yo kids are already addicted to porn,and not the softcore stuff. There will be huge consequences.

I dont think i'm confused about causality here. If you cant get excited unless you see or do extreme stuff, you're going to have a pretty difficult libido,as in reality not that many women are willing to "perfom" these "stunts".

I dont think one needs to be already interested in extreme fetish in order to get hooked to it,the more one looks at porn the more one seeks extreme stuffs. It's like any other addiction.

> I don't know what "v...t" or "o...p.....s"

Nevermind , i was saying that japanese porn is well known for its extreme fetish.

I'm having trouble following the logic because I keep thinking stuff like "so, that's why NASCAR fans all ride the bus, or ...?" I'm having trouble thinking about the proposed rules of the game as applied to sex when compared to any other game from car racing to watching TV.

>I dont think one needs to be already interested in extreme fetish in order to get hooked to it,the more one looks at porn the more one seeks extreme stuffs. It's like any other addiction.

I agree, but my point was that people who see enough porn to get to the really weird stuff are probably more likely the ones who didn't care for real-life relationships already (in a society where these two things a correlated).

Edit: clarity.

You know , back in 2005 , it was the WAP years, i used to work for a VOD business specialised in video content for phones(any content,sport,erotic,tv shows...).

My job was to source content and manage a mobile video website. that's when i got exposed to JAV. So a business we worked with sent us "classic" JAV. And frankly , it was the most extreme stuff i saw back then. There is definetly something cultural. I think japanese get exposed to stuff we would label as extreme , yet for the business i was dealing with it was normal JAV.

And i'm from a country which is quite open minded about sex(one of our first lady was an ex model who did nude photos, i dont think it would be ok in US).

France isn't really that open minded about sex. Although most people are secular, you still have the whole judaeo-christian morals hanging around in the background, subtly changing everybody's behavior. Eh ouais.

France is also a country where paternity testing is illegal.

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