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Ah, so the NSA's spying does have positive effects. It helped capture a drug king-pin who hires hitmen. I'd believed that dragnet capture of Internet traffic presents problems in trying to isolate relevant evidence, but you claim that this is not an issue.

This certainly bolsters the claim that the NSA's surveillance is doing society good. I'm not comfortable with that, but there it is.

We are at a point where we need evidence that the NSA didn't help.

So we now have to prove a negative or the NSA did it? Logic has officially left the building.

Then at that point you are no better than 9/11 truthers and moon landing hoaxers.

I see what you did there, Mr NSA.

No seriously, the whole parallel construction dialogue for NSA feeding DEA tips is exactly the situation suggested here. Why do you equate published journalism with hoaxes and factually devoid crazies. It is insulting to a fairly civil discussion.

Theres no basis in reality for 9/11 truthers and moon landing hoaxers though

That's the point.

Denying reality isn't healthy:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/dea-and-nsa-team-intel...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE...

Delusions of Grandeur aren't either.