Well I take that back, they still have entry level but they are very weak.
They used to have a $60 server that was usable but now it is $80, so $240 more a year, not trivial.
OVH Europe has better pricing/configurations than Canada.
Well I take that back, they still have entry level but they are very weak.
They used to have a $60 server that was usable but now it is $80, so $240 more a year, not trivial.
OVH Europe has better pricing/configurations than Canada.
http://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/kimsufi_16g.xml
4 real cores (HT is pointless in linux anyway) and runs "turbo" at 3.1ghz on all cores. 100mbps unlimited pipe. Same as the $80 server. Same 2TB software raid. Only the extra 16GB on the $80 is better, and $240 a year is a lot to pay for that extra 16GB
If you needed a dedicated server for years, I'd much rather make the $30/mo one work itself to death than pay $500+ more a year for the $80. Especially if you needed several of them.
You could always rent an OVH server in Europe.
It's a pricing model that makes markets pay what they are used to. I had hoped OVH would have brought down prices in this market but it is not happening.
To this actual submission and OVH's dilemma, the solution is clear -- constantly reduce the price of servers as they age. If people end up becoming suckers of sorts by becoming locked into obsolete hardware at its original, shiny and new price, of course they're going to constantly chase the market forward. Of course the flip side of this is that if you can't project the residual payments forward for years, the initial period may be more expensive.
Europe gets the same server hardware for $40/mo
Been meaning to write up an OVH survival guide. Like moving/removing their ssh keys, installing your own kernel, turning off their monitoring ping so they don't reboot your server if you are doing something that blocks the ping for too long, fixing the cpu governor so you get advertised speeds out of it, how to tune the software raid, joining the unlisted mailing lists, etc. etc.
/root/.ssh/authorized_keys
>installing your own kernel
option during installation. You can also configure your own ssh key and set a post-install script under the expert check box.
>turning off their monitoring ping so they don't reboot your server if you are doing something that blocks the ping for too long
option in the control panel
Hetzner and Burst.net would be more appropriate direct competitors in the budget space. They may still not be quite as cheap as OVH, but they're much closer than the other options you mentioned.
GoGrid offers dedicated servers as well. That RackSpace manages the servers is anathema to most of HN, but it is often brought up in regards to dedicated servers.
Yes, they are competitors to the people who look for servers, and whether one is "high end" while the other is "budget" comes through in the product and the service, not in the price, and these often come up in the same conversations.
I've lost track of what you're trying to argue. People do compare car rentals to limousines to public transit to cabs to trains to airplanes. If your goal is "get somewhere" (or "online computing resources"), they are in competition.
Likewise, if all you need is an unmanaged dedicated server, and not a managed server then great. Yes, it's going to be much cheaper than a managed hosting company, as it doesn't include server management. Just as a car rental doesn't include a chauffeur. But if you're honestly shopping around, you should be comparing one unmanaged dedicated server provider to other unmanaged dedicated server providers. And you may not, but I would also make the distinction between budget unmanaged providers and premium unmanaged providers. There's little point in comparing OVH to SoftLayer. Just because OVH is much cheaper doesn't mean SoftLayer offers poor value, not that I'm arguing it doesn't. OVH's network has limited transit options, has frequent congestion issues, and much higher latency transport links. They also use desktop grade hardware, which are much more prone to failure. Anyone heavily involved in the hosting industry is well aware not to host anything mission critical on OVH's service, and those that do are well aware of the risks involved.