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If you pay $300 for Sunday ticket with DirectTV call them up RIGHT NOW and get your refund. That's what someone pays at full price doing zero work to lower their bill. That's the price people pay who don't even try to get a lower price, the easy price.

I literally have never met someone who pays the $300 for Sunday Ticket, and I've never heard of DirectTV enforcing the $300 price tag. Sounds like you've had some terrible luck.

I notice you replied to everything except for Rewind.

The fact remains that there are many options depending on device, and the fact that you don't realize the price of DirectTV Sunday Ticket tells me that you seem to be more willing to cheat them than to find the right deal.

Seriously, if you want to cheat DirectTV call them up, go to retentions for cancelling service, and get FREE (or heavily discounted) Sunday Ticket, just like many others.

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> Seriously, if you want to cheat DirectTV call them up, go to retentions for cancelling service, and get FREE (or heavily discounted) Sunday Ticket, just like many others.

Your entire first post was about getting NFL content without cheating (see: "The NFL goes to GREAT LENGTHS to make content available to you without cheating"). Whether you are dishonest to DirecTV's retention dept, or you are dishonest about your IP location, or are dishonest about your ability to get DirecTV service, or a slew of any other methods, it all involves being dishonest to someone.

The root problem is there is no way to get out of market games without resorting to cheating. Every other American sports league offers this type of subscription package.

The NFL has stated they're shopping the exclusivity of Sunday Ticket to carriers other than DirecTV starting next season. Hopefully that is the case so they can address this glaring hole.

> I notice you replied to everything except for Rewind.

I ignored Rewind because that doesn't involve live NFL games.

No offense but you have a lot of 'privledge' to insist that you are owed live broadcast of sports. So owed, in fact, that you can justify stealing it when same-day or next-day options are available to you.

I mean, go ahead, I justify a large amount of piracy myself, but you sound like someone dismissing a minimum of work (I have to CALL them and ASK to pay less? UGH!) in favor of reverting to piracy.

Please explain to me the difference in outcomes between piracy and using Aereo. In both cases you are getting someone to retransmit you a feed over the Internet, while paying nothing to the NFL in exchange, yet one of them is stealing and the other is perfectly alright.

I find the cognitive dissonance fascinating.

Because the NFL explicitly allows over-the-air broadcasts in-market and explicitly denies illegal, unlicensed global internet streams.

When your internet stream places a PHYSICAL antenna IN-MARKET that only you can access, then you have grounds to call your internet stream equivalent to Aereo. But the fact is, I rent a physical antenna from Aereo to enjoy local broadcast content, while you utilize a (likely foreign and obviously illegal) internet rebroadcast of licensed content.

The amount of cognitive dissonance it takes for you to dismiss basic licensing is fascinating.

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