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> * that is laughably, sadistically low, even for an entry level position in Podunk, Nowhere*

The salaries are low by US standards, but not "laughably" so IMHO.

In USD, those salaries currently translate to $53k - $60k. I know developers in the Bay Area who make the same (not taking equity into account), and I'm sure those salaries are reasonable in "podunk nowhere, USA".

I guess it's also worth noting that the dollar is currently somewhat strong relative to the pound (in 2009 it was closer to 1:2 GBP:USD, for instance).

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> In USD, those salaries currently translate to $53k - $60k. I know developers in the Bay Area who make the same

Really? I thought bay area salaries were more around 80k+ to take into account cost of living.

> Really? I thought bay area salaries were more around 80k+ to take into account cost of living.

Generally yes, but ~$60k salaries are not totally unheard of - particularly in poorly funded startups hiring on equity and/or for junior roles. They are probably outliers.

That may have been true 10-15 years ago. For someone with either experience or a degree, most places pay 90k+. A senior engineer (as mentioned in the blog post) would easily make twice that.

Sure. As mentioned, I know people that make the salaries I quoted (who have both experience and degrees), and that's not something I plan to argue (because it's a fact). In my opinion they could make more if they really wanted to, but that's orthogonal to this discussion.

More like $100k - $150k+ in my experience, depending on what kind of work you're doing.

In the middle of nowhere, web developers make $30-70k in my experience. You need to work in a "city" (even if its small), or work remotely for a company that pays well to do any better.

A web developer making 30-70k is either underpaid or overpaid.

The same is true of virtually everybody at all salary levels.

The average for the bay area is somewhere around 94 USD... Based on an infographic I read 2 years ago.

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