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It seems like the USA own Europe.

What happened yesterday is very serious.

the USA are THE bully of our age and every country practically gives in. Nobody of our spineless politicians wants a bloody nose as in an early career end.

And that is really sad. The US frightens countries, people, practically everybody. The threats are real (e.g. the ongoing drone wars) and the US seems to be the number one terror organisation in the world.

Let's imagine that the US collapses tomorrow, Soviet Union style. Do you think the world will be a better place? I think it will be much worse, as someone will take its place and its either Russia or China.

I am really, really hoping that the US citizens will eventually be able to fix the government.

I don't think anyone's suggesting the US does no good. Hopefully it can change, but after the last election I'm doubtful.

I really do truly believe that. It's true that Russia or China would try to take their place but they'd have a much harder time because they don't have anything like the US military, the technical infrastructure, etc., etc. and the rest of the world has been so skeptical of them for so long they'd likely never achieve any of those things (well, perhaps military might).

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

What exactly does Russia have, except for a ridiculous land-mass? As an economy, it's only top 8. Is it the military? Is it going to use its forces to wield power over the rest of the world? It will need allies for that: does it have enough allies?

How exactly would Russia become the next superpower?

Wrong. The people that control the USA/world are the bullies. We in the States are as powerless as you.

The System's rigged, but we still have to play...

My guess is that the US has enough information about the illegal spying our EU governments do to us, that no elected politician here in Europe would risk to have that leaked.

The same is true for the US politicians. They also have all their phone calls recorded and all their emails and messages read. And accessible by millions of private contractors of unknown allegiances. Start reading boiling frogs post and listening to the interviews to understand the true situation.

> "millions of private contractors"

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/

Millions is probably overstating it though.

FTA:

"An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances."

Which might place a rough estimate of tens to hundreds of thousands (depending on how many would be in the Military, work directly for the Govt, or work on other programmes)

You mean there is not one european politician with the least bit of integrity? You mean they _all_ care more for there career than for the truth? I desperately hope your wrong but I guess you are right.

Germany, understandably being occupied and all, but France? You twats.

But meh, same goes for Sweden, it took a phone call from a lobbyist organization from Washington to a Swedish "Justice minister" for him to send the police units, raid and seize/steal private property on Swedish soil.

Whole of EU is a puppet of USA. Manchuko.

I'm still surprised this is a surprise to EU citizens or the rest of the world for that matter.

I'm from India and it didn't even give a second thought towards rejecting snowden's request for asylum.

Bottom line is, we're all pretty America's bitch. And I'm fine with that.

From what history tells us, there'll always be someone wielding the ultimate power. I think it better be the US than any other country.

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