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nah, dyson fans have used similar bases for years.

I kid, I kid.

Honestly though I do not care for an integrated "pro" machine. This is form over function. Fail a component and its off to the shop. Combined with, if I want to upgrade them I need to replace the unit.

If they are going to integrate everything then they need to drop the price. Integration implies lower costs as having all the support needed to drive user added cards and internal drives can be done away with.

Plus its not like I want to have an octopus of cables on my desk and moving storage to all external does that.

Benefits, perhaps driving the thunderbolt prices down and having new and interesting devices to connect to the system.

In the end integration means commodity, just expensive. Can't wait to see what they want for it, I figure on three thousand minimum, which would be a third too much for something so inflexible. Apple, meet Dyson

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This is form over function.

Exactly why I'm not taking it seriously. What does form do for a power desktop? Nothing. I put my desktop under my desk. I can't see it. I have to stoop to reach the power button.

I'm not going to say there's absolutely no use for form in any desktop, but IMO it's practically the number one least important feature of a power desktop/workhorse.

To me this looks like an example of Apple's craftsmanship in depth where quality and elegance can be seen at multiple levels, from the case to the internal hardware to the OS and its APIs.

Certainly one can find flaws, but compared to a typical Windows machine Apple has more craftsmanship (in my opinion). Windows exhibits more of the "just get it done" utilitarian idea.

A craftsperson can make the most beautiful, elegantly designed thing that is a joy to look at, use, and serves as a conversation piece... and still fail to meet the brief.

If someone needs a high stool for a high workbench, giving them an Aeron task chair is, while beautiful and well-made, missing the brief.

It amazes me that people are willing to pay twice as much for the fluff. I'm not convinced Apple Mac OS is twice as good as any other OS.

You may have a point. I did say "in my opinion". ;)

I'm could be jaded from working on Windows apps too long. (I worked on Windows stuff from the 3.1 era through to Windows 2000.)

Don't get me wrong - I like everything about the Mac Pro but you pay for your thrills. I can't afford to lay out that kind of scratch unnecessarily. Apple has done a nice job with the design, no doubt. Meanwhile, I have a high end Windows PC for much less money. The speed thrills me, so I don't need a Mac to get a thrill.

The new design might bring some improvement on cooling a lot of powerful hardware stashed inside a small space while keeping the noise level to a minimum.

Dyson? You're so far off ... it's clearly Darth Vader.

I can't believe no one has recognized the classic Lucas handiwork. The helmet descending on the tangled mass of circuits. The signature triangular mouth piece is so clearly evident in the heat exchanger. I can just hear it cooling ...

Amazing retro-future design cues aside, it might be user-serviceable for all components - will wait for the teardown. It's gorgeous enough to be on the desktop and may be quieter because of the chimney. And it's finally a really powerful Mac.

If you need something more powerful than this, it seems maybe a server is more appropriate.

> Fail a component and its off to the shop.

Oh, so it's exactly like the laptop, tablet, and phone you have now. Gotcha.

I dunno what laptop you're using - the screen failed on mine and I replaced it on my floor, not even a fancy workstation.

MacBookAir4,2 and MacBookPro10,1.

I buy AppleCare and leave the screwdrivers to the Genius Bar. They have copies of them on all of the continents I travel between; I frequently do not.

Furthermore, who wants to be in the laptop repair business? I push bits. For a few hundred bucks they'll fix anything that breaks and I can stop being the Maytag Man and get on with life.

I take it you do not visit Poland or Trinidad and Tobago often. Fair enough, to each for their own needs! But keep in mind the grandparent is not necessarily a high-flying high-paid bit-pusher like you, so your dismissal is still a little self-centered.

(Should I mention that it took two standard-size Phillips heads to replace my screen, the kind of sizes frequently found in a basic swappable-head screwdriver?)

I live 30 miles from Poland. They finally opened the Apple store in Berlin, too.

Ah yes, Berlin, that's a reasonable option for laptop repair for residents and visitors to Poland.

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