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Why didn't you like Into Darkness?

I liked it until I thought about it later. But while I was watching it I really really enjoyed it.

Afterwards, I thought about it as a story and it didn't make much sense.

I'm also still trying to figure out how Kirk is a captain of a star ship right out of the academy in a way that is plausible and doesn't require an actual antigravity machine to suspend my disbelief.

Farragut's first command was at age 12. He brought a captured British ship to port.

Maybe because it was too fun and watchable? The Onion review of the previous Star Trek movie feels perfect:

http://www.theonion.com/video/trekkies-bash-new-star-trek-fi...;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWLGH0VHUVs

Red Letter Media's take on "Into Darkness". Yes, even as an action flick it sucks.

87% on Rotten Tomatoes makes it hard to argue that "it sucks" is an empirical, indisputable conclusion...

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_trek_into_darkness/

Worth noting he enjoyed the first one. I largely agree with his review of the first one. In my opinion, the reboot captures effectively none of the magic of the original series, but since it's just being its own thing, it works out OK in the end, far better than an attempt to straddle the action adventure with the original Star Trek story aesthetic. I have no opinion about the second since I haven't seen it.

I guess reasonable people can disagree.

Maybe it falls apart if you look at it too closely or from a particular critical angle, but I would expect it to hold together than most broad-audience action pictures.

Because of all the stupid stuff in it?

http://io9.com/star-trek-into-darkness-the-spoiler-faq-50892...

> Look, I know Star Trek is science fiction, but hasn’t Trek always at least nominally tried to get science right?

Hmm, maybe a little bit. At least not as bad as into darkness.

...maybe because it was overblown and nonsensical. I don't mind watching mindless action in a Fast and the Furious movie, but if you're going to make a film that attempts to tell a "story" with people we're supposed to care about...it would be helpful if there was a story and characters we can care about.

(spoilers) It was absolutely awful. So many plot holes, so many abjectly stupid decisions by supposed geniuses, so much misuse of the classic Kirk/Spock relationship as though it exists at that point in the alternate timeline, and the ultimate move in bad taste... having Spock emotionally yell out "Kahn!".

I had countless moments in that film where I was snapped out of moment of watching a movie and checking my phone to see what time it was. Closest I've ever come to walking out of a scifi movie. Near the end of the film, I was desperately hoping that Kahn would kill them all.

Some really great explosions, though. Jerry Bruckheimer would be proud to produce such a fiasco. I expected better of Abrams.

It went out of its way to tie itself to Wrath of Khan, which only served to constantly remind me how much worse Into Darkness is as a movie than Wrath of Khan.

It felt very derivative. It didn't really immerse you into the story that you would forget you were there.

Exactly. I was looking at the time every ten minutes, waiting for the lameness to end.

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