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michaelochurch's comments are as valuable as the article. In particular, "3. I don't think the future is in the Bay Area or Manhattan..." rings very true. Earlier today there was the regular 1st of the month "Who's Hiring?" post. Scanning through (and trying to not overgeneralize) it struck me how rather uninteresting most of the Bay Area startups' pitches seemed (to me). Retail, ads, IT cloud services, etc. All relevant and worthy of respect -- but not _inventing_ anything really new.

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Absolutely agree. The Bay Area is a horrible cancerous wart on the tech industry. It is a huge mistake that my employer is supposedly going to build a new HQ on old HP superfund land in Cupertino. There's a reason the people who need engineers claim they can't get enough in the Bay Area domestically, but they rarely will mention (because they are near dishonest) that Americans largely refuse to move there, for financial reasons at least, and huge cultural depravity (worship of money). Michaelochurch hit many serious issues dead on accurately. I've never read a more honest remark on reddit or ycombinator since either began. (And I knew what a y combinator was decades ago, so was saddened to see it moved to the west coast.)

> Retail, ads, IT cloud services, etc. All relevant and worthy of respect -- but not _inventing_ anything really new.

Those are the types business that make money fairly easily and therefore have capital to spend on hiring. They're also not great places to work, and so they don't have talented people banging down their doors to work there. If you want to work somewhere that is doing something really cool, it's unlikely you'll see them posting it on a job board

Actually the cloud's not much in SV. Rackspace is in Texas and Amazon's AWS leaders are in Seattle and their biggest datacenter is in Virginia.

The whole point of the cloud is that it doesn't matter where the servers are physically located. The programming jobs aren't located where the servers are anymore. The servers are in places with cheap real estate and power.

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