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Huh did no one notice CNN proving musk right and NYT to be lying ?

haha all CNN proved is that they can play lapdog for Tesla. Let's make it clear: the weather was much warmer yesterday and today, the CNN people didnt stay overnight, and they made sure to spend extra time charging. Those were not in the Broder case, so its an apples-to-oranges comparison.

Review http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5224618 (the comments to the original post) for a more detailed criticism

ahhh maybe cause the CNN article doesn't prove that Musk was right. They were driving under different conditions (the weather is much warmer now). Didn't stay over night, and didn't follow the same instructions that the NYT report received when he called Tesla.

Repeating someone's experiment but changing several of the variables (temperature, overnight stop versus all-in-one-day) does not refute the experiment.

> Repeating someone's experiment but changing several of the variables (temperature, overnight stop versus all-in-one-day) does not refute the experiment.

That depends. If the stress on the car's battery is the same, but the driver's behavior with respect to charging is different, then the new experiment may have important things to tell us.

And remember -- in science, there are no failed experiments. A replication effort that doesn't produce the same result as the original experiment is still a useful result.

Right, but not having the car parked in a lot overnight in very cold weather would seem to be a very different type of stress in the CNN run.

Yes, true, which means we have a new data set, and if we're careful in our analysis we may discover why the new data differs from the old. Therefore it's a successful experiment.

I don't trust CNN as a news source just as I don't trust any car "journalist" (there shouldn't be such a job because they're just a bunch of liers).

But I'm tempted to say that "of course" that the replay went out flawlessly and the car still had close to 100 miles left.

Broder hates electric vehicles and want that technology to fail: he clearly just wanted soooooo badly to put that picture of the Tesla being towed. You could tell it was fishy from the split-second that picture happened.

Now, interestingly, the logs and Musk's response just show how much he knows about its technology and its cars and how well they've been conceived.

This one is going to end up being a major win for Tesla (and Musk).

I've got a Porsche 911 Carrera and, honestly, I've been tempted by the Tesla roadster. But now seeing what Musk wrote, all these logs and his explanation I just want to buy a Tesla sedan.

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