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GO HOME JOB ROBBERS.

TITLE 8, SECTION 1182 - INADMISSIBLE ALIENS says you are BOTH illegals and need to go home right now. We have smart US citizens living in tents and smart US citizen PhDs working at Staples.

GO HOME NOW

You people have destroyed 28 million US jobs since 1998 and now there are not enough jobs to go around, are there? In 1998 the USA had FULL EMPLOYMENT. That was before the dark times, before the poojoos. We were here first and built this place and we're citizens so it's you who have to leave.

You were only supposed to be here temporarily anyway and go home in 2002.

Why are you still here?

I hear there is great demand for someone in India to start toilet factories.

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huh?

> TITLE 8, SECTION 1182 - INADMISSIBLE ALIENS says you are BOTH illegals and need to go home right now.

He said nothing about his citizenship. He could be a citizen for all you know.

Secondly, the fact is that immigration law provides all kinds of extensions in cases for some H1-B's. One overstay a visa when it has been legitimately extended for the relevant period.

Third, as someone married to someone of another nationality I have to say that not only are you demonstrably wrong (as I have shown above) but that also when I came to Indonesia with my wife (I am an American), I brought my job with me. International telecommuting is quite possible. Kicking the wrong people out also kicks their jobs out which isn't very productive.... (My wife was not kicked out btw. We came over here on our own initiative.)

Literally 15 seconds of googling: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104719.html

No, America did not have full employment in 1998. Closest was 1.5 unemployment in 1944 (which, to be fair, is really impressive.)

Not to mention the inherent xenophobia and nativism in your post. You should maybe look into labor economics and what Sacco and Vanzetti might have to say about your comments.

"Closest was 1.5 unemployment in 1944 (which, to be fair, is really impressive.)"

Could using up surplus workers in a world war have anything to do with that?

Of course it does. Doesn't make it not impressive.

And as for all the startups founded by Aliens creating jobs and fueling the economy, including Google?

Sergei Brin emigrated at age 3, grew up here, was born here, and educated here. He's more American than foreign. And Larry Page was born here. And it's a well known fact Google was funded by CIA. It wasn't just an accident. Can you name any companies founded ENTIRELY by Indians that are profitable and creating jobs? Didn't think so. And you forgot all the companies they destroyed including Bell Labs and Sun:

Companies ruined or almost ruined by imported Indian labor (US)

        Adaptec - Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
        AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
        AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
        Apple - R&D CLOSED in India in 2006.
        Australia's National Australia Bank (Outsourced jobs to India in 2007, nationwide ATM and account failure in late 2010).
        Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
        Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
        Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
        Caymas - Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
        Caterpillar misses earnings a mere 4 months after outsourcing to India, Inc.
        Circuit City - Outsourced all IT to Indian-run IBM and went bankrupt shortly thereafter.
        ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
        Deloitte - 2010 - this Indian-packed consulting company is being sued under RICO fraud charges by Marin Country, California for a failed solution.
        Dell - call center (closed in India)
        Delta call centers (closed in India)
        Fannie Mae - Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty.
        GM - Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
        HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
        Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
        Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
        Medicare - Defrauded by Indian national doctor Arun Sharma & wife in the U.S.
        Microsoft - Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it's lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
        MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
        PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
        PepsiCo - Slides from #1 to #3 during Indian CEO Indra Nooyi' watch.
        Polycom - Former senior executive Sunil Bhalla charged with insider trading.
        Qantas - See AirBus above
        Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
        Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010, cost Rolls $500m).
        SAP - Same as Deloitte above in 2010.
        Skype (Madhu Yarlagadda fired)
        State of Indiana $867 million FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
        State of Texas failed IBM project.
        Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, had to be sold off to Oracle).
        UK's NHS outsourced numerous jobs including health records to India in mid-2000 resulting in $26 billion over budget.
        Union Bank of California - Cancelled Finacle project run by India's InfoSys in 2011.
        United - call center (closed in India)
        Victorian Order of Nurses, Canada (Payroll system screwed up by SAP/IBM in mid-2011)
        Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
        World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).

OH MY GOD A BUNCH OF PROJECTS THAT FAILED.

You act like no White anglo-saxon male has ever FUBAR'd an IT project or stolen data, or lied. This is ridiculous to single out Indian developers like this.

This is pure hateful rubbish. I'm shocked to see it on Hacker News. A sad, new low.

It's a throwaway account so he can voice his opinions without having to really absorb the -20 karma he's already earned himself.

Best just to ignore the trolls, the system weeds them out.

Guy's a pathetic loon. he's cut and pasted this on over 8000 pages since 2010, at least.

I'll repeat what I said before: there has been a net job loss of 28 million jobs since these people began arriving en masse in 1998. That's a net LOSS of 28 million jobs, not net creation. There are no net jobs being created by immigrants. USA is still losing jobs.

USA has been losing and will continue to lose jobs regardless, extending now to middle wage jobs in the service sector, due to automation.

The only real job creators are the self-employed, and many immigrants I have met have been uniquely willing to do this, as hard as self-employment is made by the government in this country (the US).

You're completely wrong. Immigrants and foreign workers are adding to the employment competition, they raise the overall quality of the workforce. There will be a major crisis if they leave, trust me.

Eponysterical

Shame on you

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