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The cost to setting up and maintaining your own server and emulating many of the more modern HipChat features (drag+drop file sharing, archived/searchable history, mobile push notifications) is not trivial. Most companies find it far cheaper to spend money on a service than roll their own in house (see also: GitHub, UserVoice, hosted WordPress, etc).

Also, nontechnical people are often not very comfortable using IRC/XMPP.

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The account manager at my company takes offense to this. Sorry, but even "nontechnical" people have setup mIRC when they were 14.

Your account manager is an exception, and your argument is a false equivalency: just because you know of a non-technical person who has experience with IRC does not mean that all nontechnical people have experience with IRC. Indeed, the trend is most likely that people in non-technical roles have less experience and exposure to such tools.

HipChat is more than an IRC server - it's a fully searchable web-based chat archival system, as well as a file transmission and sharing app backed by S3. It's also fully mobile-compatible and will do proper message routing to multiple devices owned by the same user, as well as temporary message caching/retry if your device is unreachable when a message is sent. etc etc. The list goes on.

None of it impossible to replicate in-house, but I dare a non-technical person to replicate HipChat's stack.

Isn't the main purpose of HipChat to interface with Jira and the rest of the Atlassian stack? That's the real win.

at that point you might as well get google apps for business.

Google doesn't exactly have an "IRC on crack" product though? Also, I find GTalk's routing to be spotty when it comes to multiple devices - it's quite common for me to receive messages from coworkers at night and have them route to my work machine instead of one that's active on the GTalk account at home.

Nowadays we use GroupMe for things that must be read in a timely manner. It'd be nice if we could use GTalk for it (this is a Google Apps GTalk account, not a public one).

Google Wave was supposed to be that "IRC on crack" product.

I'm sorry but I'd classify quite a few of my peers as non-technical and even as 20-somethings they don't even know what IRC is.

Some of my technical peers don't have the slightest idea what IRC is (23, 25 and 26 year olds, doing software development for a living)

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