So maybe the LSD and psilocybin just cut through the socialized anxiety crap and give people a more natural or normal view of death, among other things.
So maybe the LSD and psilocybin just cut through the socialized anxiety crap and give people a more natural or normal view of death, among other things.
During her stay one of the tribe's elders decided she had had enough and told the tribe so. They started their ritual and held a feast for a day or two where everybody peacefully said goodbye to the old woman and on the morning of the third day the tribe moved on and left the old woman behind in the desert to die in peace.
However the aid worker couldn't accept this. The woman was still alive! She could go on for at least a few more weeks, maybe even months! So she frantically ran back to the tribe pleading with them to let the old woman live. The tribesman were confused and tried to calm the aid worker down. It was all good! They had said goodbye and she had led an amazing life!
When it became clear she couldn't convince the tribe of the error of their ways, the aid-worker went back to the old woman and stayed with her to comfort her until she passed away.
The aid worker never realized that she was the one being comforted.
Rather ironic comment, coming from the technical founder of VideoView ;-)
Seriously though, many thanks for sharing that story - it illustrates just how far advanced some cultures are about death and dying. Western Civ seems incredibly immature in this regard by comparison.
If you (or anyone else reading this) can offer any more details about this series or episode, by all means please share!
For the Dutchies who might be able to help; it was from a show at least 5 years old but maybe even 10 about 'liefdadigheidswerkers' who travelled to other countries. I think it was on SBS6, but definitely one of the commercial stations.
Either way, it's not so much that it cuts through socialized anxiety. Another insight you gain from this kind of experience is realizing how much you participated in creating the socialized anxiety within you. The anxiety doesn't go away so much as you become less attached to it. Being less attached to it, you see how it no longer serves a purpose in your life, and you're free to pay attention to the stuff that is more important. Like experiencing what time you have left -- and make no mistake, whether you have a terminal cancer, or not (or whether we make it to technology that allows someone to transfer personality into silicon), you too will eventually die.
One day, I hope that we'll have socially sanctioned initiations, not just for treating existential anxiety in people facing terminal illness. It would cut away a lot of teenage adolescent bullshit, and a lot of midlife bullshit. Having experienced that "cosmic force" invites people to really connect with each other, something far more meaningful than our current crop of "social networks." So this isn't just about having a meaningful experience of death. It's about having a meaningful experience of life.
If someone posted an article about a new supersonic jet that takes you from New York to Sydney in under 4 hours, you could make a comment about being able to do the same by foot. You would be technically correct however it wouldn't be a very useful comment, given the difference between several hours and a lifetime.
People don't know why they should be practicing mindfulness. And then for whatever reason they gain insight -- be that practice, or ritual, or psychedelics -- they get it. A lot of things open up. There's a whole layer of meaning in textual traditions that opens up, and you realize a lot of people have been trying to say the same things. And you wonder how you missed it?
And then you want to go back. Now you jump into the practice diligently, to try to get back to that peak experience. The thing is, peak experiences are just that. Like all things, they come and go.
Coming through the psychedelics, it is easy to spend a lot of time taking hit after hit to get back to that peak experience. It was part of why people who have not been initiated into this fear it. They see people drifting out from the real world, and these people then say crazy things like, "well, reality is much bigger than you think."
The thing is, this happens in any mystical traditions. Someone who realized these insights while sitting on a cushion starts become uninterested in anything but sitting on that cushion.
Which is ironic because all of this is about experiencing reality, not escaping from it. That is another reason I pointed out the connection with vipassana. The point is to experience reality, something that seems counterintuitive when people talk about psychedelics.
Usually, you have a sangha -- people who are cultivating with you, whatever the modality -- helps you stay grounded.
Generally speaking, once you had some psychedelic experience, you'd find meditating much easier. It's the journey, not the destination. Of course :-)
That said, I really want to try mushrooms/acid because I feel like I'm at this midway point, bobbing back and forth between the awareness of meditation and the power of the present and slipping back into old thought habits and anxieties. I feel like a pokemon evolving, flashing between my old form and my new form and my ego keeps wanting to hit B to stop the evolution. :P
Something else that complements vipassana well is the method described in Tsultrim Allione's Feeding Your Demons.
But isn't meditation more like "You don't get it, until you get it" kind of a thing?
I mean I haven't read anything so far that describes the process of mediation as do Step 1) -> Step 2) .. All I get is description of what meditation can do and even that too more or less put down like- "You will not know how it feels, until you feel it".
How to Meditate? I hope someday I get some clear answer to this question.
What you do: 1) Sit in a comfortable position, without shifting around, in a quiet place, with your eyes closed 2) Primary Focus: to constantly feel yourself breathing 3) Do this for about an hour
Likely Contingencies: a) You "need" to shift around. Nothing wrong with that. What happens if you don't? Keep feeling your breath! b) You will start thinking. Nothing wrong with that. But can you think while constantly feeling your breath? Or are you multi-tasking now? Keep feeling your breath! c) a+b: You think about needing to shift around. Nothing wrong with that. Keep feeling your breath! d) You might wonder if the hour is over or not. Alternatively, if you set an alarm, you will wonder if its properly set, and if maybe you should check it. Keep feeling your breath! e) You might need to do a million little things, check the dog's water, the task queue, the pot on the stove, whatever. Keep feeling your breath! f) You will find yourself thinking about how you are now 'feeling your breath'. Oops, you probably just stopped feeling your breath to think that thought. Keep feeling your breath!
What does it mean to "constantly feel yourself breathing"? a) It means your attention/focus is completely on the feeling of breathing. Your conscious existence is the sensation of being 'a breathing thing'. b) Corrolary: you probably aren't 'thinking in language'. In my experience, its not common to multitask thoughts 'in language' with a focus on physical sensation. c) As you begin meditating (first several times? more? less? depends...) You will context switch back and forth constantly between 'thinking in language' and 'feeling your breath'.
Why is this meditation interesting? The best reply I can give is, "Isn't it interesting enough that you can't just do such a simple thing as watch your breath without thinking about a bunch of other things?"
So for example, you have a web of thoughts associated with meditation and things like "You don't get it, until you get it".
There are feelings underneath that. Perhaps a bit of anxiety, frustration. Curiosity. Etc. Your mind interprets those feelings into thoughts.
Each feeling then, radiates from parts of your body. For example, anxiety may be a tension that you feel in the chest. It has shape, it has texture. It has pressure. Whenever you get those sensations, your mind automatically interprets that as "anxiety". So you focus in on the sensations instead.
So now, you're paying attention to the actual sensations. You notice that it isn't a solid thing. That it moves. And if you start zooming into it, it isn't a solid sensation so much as made up of tiny bits of sensations that come in and out very fast, and your mind interpolates the sensation to give an illusion of a single, solid sensation.
So now you're there, at the "bare-metal", bare sensation level. This is where you are, observing those sensations and not attaching to any one of them.
A similar practice is called "Noting". You pick a concentration object, and pay attention to it. Things will come up. First will be thoughts. You Note the thought, and then you go back to to the concentration object. Eventually, something will shift and emotions will come up. You Note each as they come up and then go back to the concentration object. Then you get to the bare sensate levels, and you Note each of the things that come up. Then you go back to the concentration object.
That is it.
There really is not much more than that. The insights some of the other folks have mentioned here, that will come on its own. Your "job" while meditating is to Note each and every thing that comes up, let it go, and then go back to the concentration object.
Testimonies of Deep Insight or Knowledge of the Arising and Passing - http://thehamiltonproject.blogspot.com/2010/12/if-this-is-in...
To reach the end of seeking and seeing that everything is already non-dual, many people can accomplish this in 18 months to 2 years.
(1) You don't have to do this with psychedelics.
(2) You can gain the insights without psychedelics, meaning that it is within the normal operating parameters of the human brain to gain these insights.
(3) You can trip and get high when you meditate. Don't be afraid when it happens.
(4) You can trip and get high when you meditate. It's another attachment.
(5) It's less of taking a "shortcut" with psychedelics and more about being initiated. Having tasted it and knowing that vipassana will also get you there invites you to have a regular practice. Peak experiences come and go.
(6) The universe is a bigger place than we thought.
I never heard of Unlearning Meditation but I do know that there were a lot of things I thought I knew about meditation and it was ... not exactly like that. Anne Wise's book, High Performance Mind gets into some of the technical details. I like Daniel Ingram's book, Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha but a lot of people don't. It's not exactly a beginner's book, but it's something to keep in mind if you ever start getting some weird experiences that you have difficulty framing.
I say vipassana to mean the specific practice of experiencing reality, every little bit. It's not the only modality, and you'll find this particular practice in other traditions (and I mean, in Western traditions as well. There's not much you can tack on to "experience reality").
I have also been (slowly) translating the Tao Te Ching from the perspective that it is a book to guide you in your practice, not necessarily a book stating a philosophy. For example, the famous "The journey of a thousand miles begin with the first step" when put into this context actually means, let go of the thought/emotion/sensation at the beginning rather than when it becomes a full-blown train wreck that you have to ride out.
I'm a bit stuck with the translation because I'm hitting the parts that resemble more of a trip with psychedelics, and the audience was originally intended for people who may not have those experiences. Having said that, I noticed that Brian Browne Walker's translation is in that particular spirit.
Sometimes, just sitting there and getting in touch with reality is difficult. So there are other practices that can lead up to doing this. If you are still interested in this, but find Mindfulness in Plain English intimidating, I suggest Dan Millman's The Way of the Peaceful Warrior and followup with his Everyday Enlightenment.
I'd suggest starting with the book Unlearning Meditation instead of any particular traditional technique, but that's just me.
== another nit: the first word is a useless adjective.
If you know enough to nitpick this, then you probably didn't need the information :-D
Doing this has made me fully comfortable with death, as there is simply nothing, no experience, no frame of reference, no self, nothing to judge, nothing to suffer.
Highly recommended.
Now, I've been trying all of that off the cushion. Mindful standing. Mindful walking. Mindful martial arts. Mindful coding. Mindfully listening to other people. With varying levels of success :-)
Would you mind elaborating on that? I would have thought mindfulness (being aware of the present and being alive) would sit at the opposite end of a spectrum from coding (being deeply focused on abstract constructs). When I'm good, I remember to use mindfulness in the breaks between coding, but I can't imagine them in parallel. (Maybe you meant the former?)
PS: great comments.
I was deeply influenced by the writings of Daniel Ingram. I encountered his book shortly after my first set of experiences, and the experiences were not like anything I had read about or assumed. Despite the controversy around his books, he has a framework I find useful.
He introduced the notion of a "concentration object", and I realized you can use anything as a concentration object. Since a lot of people are out of touch with the senses, it is better to use a physical sense as the concentration object -- breathing, candle, etc. at least until you realized enough insights to go straight to just being.
However, you can also use concentration objects that are constructed. They come and go anyways, so why wouldn't you use something that is not there? I have a wide network of acquaintances with people practicing all sorts of traditions, and I can render what they do in these terms. There is a whole class of practices where you create the concentration object and the concentrate on it. For example: a Buddhist mandala or pathworking the Sephiroth in Kabbalah.
Where I find it useful in coding has more to do with the concentration skills gained from one-point concentration. So that is not strictly vipassana.
However, more importantly, it has allowed me to consider code on its own merits instead of reacting to my Jungian shadows or to other Jungian shadows. There's a tendency for nerds and geeks to get emotional about their code, even defend it, and yet they will not admit to the emotions that run amok. Look in any thread about "What is the best programming language?" and you'll see it.
Another useful thing is that ... knowing things come and go, that there is always an ending to anything that begins, means it is easier to let go of code. You don't get attached to code, so you have attachments to keeping it around. Leaving commented out code. Or diving back in and refactoring. Or recognizing when you are about go yak shaving, and no, that neat feature you did really isn't that important.
Finally, as your awareness broadens, you really start thinking about just what kind of impact your code is making. Not in the social activist sense so much as one deeply informed by the realization you've gained on the cushion. Do you really want to be working on another social network for cats?
Hope that helps, maybe provide some interesting things to explore :-)
Unfortunately, I don't know the traditional lore that lets someone assess and customize a concentration object for someone else. So what I wrote there comes from my understanding of NLP, specifically, the sensory modality. It is incomplete.
I will say though, find something that feels more or less right and then stick with it (at least for the beginning). Just like there is never a perfect time to meditate, and there is never a perfect posture, or a perfect cushion, there isn't a perfect concentration object. You might be dithering because of the anxiety that comes up when you subconsciously realize, you really are going to go looking into yourself. Though, from what you are saying, you've probably already experienced that.
I also suggest trying to set aside time every day for this. If you can anchor it to around the same time of day (such as, "before dinner", "before bed") it would help. A streak calendar app also helps. The commitment is to do a minimum amount, say even 5 minutes a day, and allow a "bonus time" on the weekends. Of course, if you feel comfortable sitting longer, by all means :-)
I don't like to meditate after eating more because of the full stomach. I suppose I should try that "fullness" sensation as a concentration object sometime.
As for drowsiness, a tip I picked up from Anne Wise's book, High Performance Mind: you can fill a glass of water and hold it. That tends to keep people awake. You can also try standing meditation, as that is more energetic than sitting.
If you are closing your eyes while sitting and find yourself drowsy, keep your eyes open. My Ch'en buddies tell me it is tradition to keep the eyes open. It's possible to do this without blinking. The first couple times, your eyes might start watering as the body adjusts to not blinking; then it comes back into homeostasis.
Postures ... they do matter, in the sense that you want to be able to fall asleep in them. If you can, try it with the spine vertical. If you are using a chair, sit at the edge of the chair, feet flat to the ground.
Incense helps in a lot of ways. It also acts as an environmental cue. So is having a dedicated space for the meditation.
As for the chaos of stimulation. This one is tricky. Yes, you can get into a trance by turning down the amount of stimulation. However, the practice of vipassana is being OK with things that come in and out of your space. A stimulus stimulates you because your awareness attaches to it, and comes off of the concentration object. What you do is stay with the concentration object while allowing whatever it is to pass freely through you. You want to stay awake, though in the deeper states, things start resembling lucid dreaming. Falling asleep is the opposite of mindfulness, that is, mindlessness.
There are sometimes when I simply sit there for a good half hour, my thoughts thrashing about. And then the second session following up on it, I hit the emptiness (for however long before I attach to something again), though my eyes are open, my spine straight and unsupported.
It's worth practicing being mindful even at greater stimulation since the skill translates to being mindful while off the cushion. To put it in a different way, you slip into flow state when you choose to, whatever activity you are doing. That's helpful for things like cooking. It is liberating when someone is yelling at you at work for whatever reason, and you're not pushed off your center; you might even help your coworker relax and deal with whatever issue that triggered the yelling in the first place.
Hope this helps.
Can you describe the risks.
The basics of Noting (vipassana) is still going to be the same.
"I'm not claiming Buddhism and meditation are the only way to enlightenment, just that they are one way."
That's had a profound impact on my acceptance of people from different walks of life. I feel like one can find peace and enlightenment from a Christian, Catholic, Jewish, Islamic path, or as was the case with me, a psychedelic one.
To me, there is no question of universally better. Perhaps one path is more suited to a particular individual, but that's up to him or her to discover.
http://gurdjieff.tribe.net/thread/158f144d-6630-46e6-ad5d-f2...
DMT is the epitome of the fourth way. It is transformative in a way that nothing else can really approach, not LSD or mushrooms or any amount of meditation, or what have you.
Psychedelics often situate the experience of death in a deeply meaningful context.
-- Nietzsche
Here's part of the notes I took while reading it:
Please excuse any grammar and/or spelling mistakes since these were written very quickly on a cell phone keyboard.
P.S.: To feint: please fix your site. Trying to publish material on Pen.io under an the custom URL "tdod-notes" I got someone else's page and couldn't even go back to edit what I had posted. Also, using a custom URL "tdod" didn't work at first, and I couldn't change the title to "Partial notes for Ernest Becker's The Denial of Death" afterwards. It seems like the safest way to use the site now is to create a short "asdf" post and then edit it to add the content.
IMO anxiety over death is 100% rooted in our instinctive fear of death. Best I can tell, humans have been anxious about it ever since they had the cognitive ability to see it coming, and the time to stop and think about it.
People who think of death as "the next great adventure" (as phrased in the Harry Potter book series), or any number of other cached euphemisms, will have relatively little inclination to actually fix it, or even think about it.
So ... you're saying that you deny entropy?
Another good read on finding perspective with death is "Staring at the Sun".