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> English is the working language for most developers all over the world, but not every culture is overly sensitive to swearing.

I'm not an American, but it's interesting to see how strongly people from the States react to swearing. I know that for every 10 guys thinking that the usage of the word "fuck" is unprofessional there is at least one George Carlin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsZwRirDOYQ), Lenny Bruce or Bill Gates (http://philip.greenspun.com/bg/), it just seems that this "puritanical" point of view has gotten stronger and stronger lately. I'd be curious about the underlying reasons.

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In my opinion this view is getting weaker. I'm encountering more and more otherwise excellent technical posts or blogs that I'm unwilling to share with others because the author drops an f-bomb just for emphasis.

Just the fact that you used the term "f-bomb" instead of "fuck" shows that the "puritanical point of view" alive and well.

Does it really even matter what word you use if we already know what you're talking about?

On the contrary, the theme of my post shows that. Can you explain why you think the 'puritanical' attitude is a bad thing (which you are clearly assuming). Aside from any religious points anyone would like to make, I view this behavior as highly unprofessional.

It's humourless, homogenous, prissy, inhuman (in the sense that it removes emotional context) and fucking boring. Correlating professionalism with the above is very USAian. You should focus on breadth of successful interaction on the human side and ongoing effective fulfilment of job description. Not sure where religion comes into it outside of the Puritans who buggered off to America.

I am quite sure that the concept of "polite conversation" is not american or puritan-centric.

In my experience, the people using the f-word in business interactions are the same people trying to con me. Maybe this is because several of my early experiences correlated this behavior with people trying to get me to join Ponzi schemes (these 'businesses' often target college-age people in the US).

The phrase "polite conversation" is meaningless in its ambiguity. I assume from the context that for you it refers to words one may or may not use to maintain propriety. To me it refers to the meaningless pleasantries one uses when temporarily sharing an environment with strangers.

From outside the US:

The fuss caused by the wardrobe malfunction during a sports event was baffling.

Some TV programs (not aimed at children, an example is "The Good Wife") have to avoid all swears. That's okay, but sometimes characters need to swear. In one episode they jokingly used traffic noise from a window to mask the swears.

I don't understand the torture porn of shows like 24 and the refusal to allow swearing.

Facebook made a decision to not allow any nipples. That's okay, their servers their rules. But they extended that to disallow any images of women breast-feeding children. That is baffling. Especially when FB also has some hate pages.

> I'd be curious about the underlying reasons.

I'd guess diverse population, with a vocal group who cares about it and a clear issue to campaign against. It's harder to say "More swearing on TV!".

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