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I think these reasons are unreasonable. The requirement seems to be for a wireframing app with exactly the features he wants, no features he doesn't want, and no interface to make that possible. Maybe the problem is that wireframing is work, and he doesn't like doing it.

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I'm with the OP on this one—wireframing on the computer is unreasonably slow. It's four to five times faster to draw something out on paper.

Seriously, try it. Come up with a design in your head. Try drawing it on paper. Then put the paper away, and try drawing it in Mockingbird or HotGloo. It will take significantly longer. And worse, it feels like wasted time, because you know you could do it much faster.

Then draw your wireframes on paper... I do most initial design wireframes in a notebook anyway--it's faster, easy to make changes and serves the same purpose. I believe they call this "paper prototyping" and I'll take that over wireframing apps any day.

Maybe there is a mockup tool which reasonably reads your drawings into a mockup tool so you can just continue from there once you have your paper drawing done? I think I saw one on HN a while ago, didn't try it though.

You may be thinking of POP for iOS - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pop-prototyping-on-paper/id5...

That's only true for the very first boxes and coming up with ides. when you're maybe making 5 different variations of roughly the same thing, a wire-framing tool allows you to just copy and paste what you did around and tweak everything.

I kind of get the impression that the author hasn't done much wireframing

So is it possible that a technical solution isn't really needed for a pen-n-paper "problem"?

Ok, well first of all, your suggestion that I don't like working is ridiculous. I work 50-60 hours a week. Some of that time is spent designing wireframes.

It would take ages for me to describe the exact interface I want and even then, as you implied, that may not suit others. So, rather than try to request an exact interface, I was trying to paint a better picture of what wireframing apps should be focused on. Less is more. At the moment, I think they are all missing the mark considerably.

Oh, you misunderstand — I mean you don't like to do the work of wireframing. I certainly didn't mean to imply that you were averse to work in general.

If that was what you were trying to portray, it didn't come through to me; it looked like you were saying, "It should be convenient yet completely invisible."

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