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I am not smearing drugs. Your difficulty is proving somehow this beyond language thing exists. A drug affects your brain, lsd inhibits certain negative feedbacks in the brain, positive feedback tends to cause chaos which usually manifests as fractals. As of yet our brains are known to not follow any special laws beyond known physics, which is turing computable. If you think there is something "beyond" you have to prove it to an external observer.

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Never seen this description of LSD inhibiting negative feedback in the brain. I've mostly seen reports that it increases connectivity in the white matter region, which has the inherent property of giving more paths for loops to form. Have any resources about it?

Anyway, I think what they're saying is that if you train a model purely on generating language, it'll lack many of the things about human brains (and the human experience) that result in the language they generate. The process can matter more than the result for language (specifically for creativity and art, too), so it follows that a model trained purely on the output is going to be missing something more fundamental, even when it does produce coherent language. This matches up with my LLM experience so far. That's not to say anything about their value or utility, just that they're not the same.

I am not a mathematician or neurologist so do not take my word as granted but look into the work of LSD's interactions with the thalamus and 5-HT2A receptors. It is my understanding that LSD turns off an otherwise inhibited system so the feedback loop of certain neural signals goes from decaying to exciting leading to a highly sensitive state. But you should go ask a neurologist for better understanding.

God bless you, my friend.

If you cannot prove something beyond known physics (don't have to develop the theory of it, just demonstrate any phenomenon), then I am afraid your ideas would have to be deemed bogus for now.

I'll pray for your soul as many times as you repeat this, so it's in your best interest to go on. Three prayers already granted.

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