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You imply that Jaan Tallinn is funding work in AI safety because he wants his investment in Anthropic to become more valuable, whereas Tallin has consistently said that his motivation for investing in Anthropic was to get a seat at the table so that he could urge Anthropic to be cautious in its development of the technology.

Tallinn's actions back up his explanation: in 2009, before he invested in any AI lab, he donated substantially to the nonprofit Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence, which was later renamed the Machine Intelligence Research Institute (i.e., Yudkowsky's outfit).

Some of us (certainly Yudkowsky and Habryka, the leader of Lightcone Infrastructure, which runs Lesswrong) wish people would stop believing that they can improve the bad situation caused by AI research and development by investing in (or working for) frontier AI labs, but that is what the preponderance of the evidence shows Tallinn (and Dustin Moskovitz and others) did sincerely believe.

If Tallinn is sincere, by his own lights he is a 1000x omnicide profiteer.

1 [Unsafe AI development risks causing omnicide]

2 [Anthropic is developing omnicidal AI by not slowing down] (see my comment about the RSP for citations).

3 [Owners of Anthropic will IPO with billions of unearned USD as omnicide profiteers]

4 [Tallinn is the lead Series A funder of Anthropic]

5 [Tallinn is a genocide/omnicide profiteer]

Not only that, Yudkowsky and Habryka apparently critize those who invest in AI, only to preach the word of EA from Lightcone's $20m USD property in one of the wealthiest locations in the Bay Area; a facility funded by stolen (FTX) and omnicidal ai blood-money (Tallinn).

PauseAI, is paid by the omnicide profiteers themselves to hold a protest against omnicide.

PauseAI prophesying p(doom) drums up support for regulation. This grants the omnicidal AI company they are trying to stop (which is also the source of their funding) monopolistic power. That in turn boosts its value at IPO, generating even greater wealth for its omnicide profiteer investors; and permits them to control the AI for themselves. They get the funding to keep developing the AI even faster.

Somehow this got downvoted. Do you deny anything I have alleged? I think it's accurate.

1-5 is from EA's assumptions, plus Anthropic's own assumption that it is developing unsafe AI. It is just what they have stated in public.

Lightcone funding is accurate. PauseAI funding is accurate.

Using regulation to coordinate development in big firms creates a cartel, surely true.

Boosts value at IPO, yes, because of monopolistic competition.

Investors get unearned cash, yes, because they can cash out at IPO.

Control, yes, because Anthropic is in a cartel.

Keep developing the AI faster. That needs more justification, it's still true though, they state on record they will go faster because of China. Higher valuation lets them spend more money.

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