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This is a bit surprising to me, considering how much AI companies love to hoard data. Especially since some of these ad companies are direct competitors!

My best guess is that these ad mechanisms are a bit rushed and/or that investor demands for profitability are fighting against company self-interest.

Edit: I guess some data will always need to be leaked for AI chat ads to be most effective. But I imagine AI companies would rather deliver the targeted ads themselves rather than letting competitors do it for them. It would be scary to see AI companies become ad companies too (instead of just hosting them).

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I'm taking an onboarding process for an Ai company helping other (much) bigger Ai companies and the amount of vibecoded platforms and documentation is staggering. Like, training process so broken that the platform just doesn't load sometimes, things that have never even been tried are published and you have to use them and they suck so much because it is apparent that no human ever touched that and probably wouldn't want to

Doesn’t sound like your new company is going to be very helpful for other AI companies lol

It's a part time job hiring contractors, I'm doing this only because they pay would be nice but I know very well I can be fired anytime or when the project is done...

Anyway I'm a student so I'm not looking for something stable. BTW now it's getting better but if I were the client paying for those services I'd be pretty fucking furious for what's going on - guess they'll never know tho

Soak it up. Front row seat to some wild times lol good luck man

AI companies rushing an implementation? Surely not :).

No no it’s hyperscaling

hyperleaking

hyperscaling == lucratively funded adult summer camp

No argument here. Gives me star citizen vibes

So I only read the abstract, but the question is if the data is leaked, by accident, or if it's deliberately provided. My guess is that we're talking about the first scenario, and that this is an accident.

If that's the case, then I'm not surprised at all. Actually I also wouldn't be surprised if they sold the data, but that's a different story. If we look at OpenAI for instance, they have on multiple occasion shown that they do not have the operational experience or resources to run their services in a safe and secure manor, nor do they frankly have an impressive up reliability (in terms of operational stability).

I'd support your guess that all of this is rushed in an attempt to push for profitabilitet/growth.

the question is if the data is leaked, by accident, or if it's deliberately provided. My guess is that we're talking about the first scenario, and that this is an accident.

Read the T&Cs. If there's even the tiniest bit of "we might provide your data to third parties for the purposes of...", it's not an accident. Virtually all the AI company T&Cs I've looked at had weasel words that open that door, because it's obvious to anyone paying attention that cramming ads into AI products is the next frontier in AI revenue streams.

Well, some data is deliberately provided at least. It's not a situation of other apps managing to grab the data like the facebook-localhost exploit

>The most prevalent third-party services included in CSP headers belong to Google Tag Manager (googletagmanager.com), Google Analytics (google-analytics.com), and Google Ads (googleadservices.com and doubleclick.net). Yet, as Table 8 shows, CSP policies commonly include other prominent actors in the advertising industry, such as TikTok and Meta.

I don’t think it matters much if it is intentional or not, no? In both cases it’s a breach of privacy that should be punished. Though I myself do not believe they are selling, I don’t think they reached that level of sophistication yet, they seem to be way too hacky for that type of scheme. But that will for sure come later on

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