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Fascinating! I literally never use Claude without plan mode and I find it's basically useless without it, constantly wasting tokens going in circles on irrelevant things. Fable or Opus. I feel like neither has a good sense for how to architect things and if I don't use plan mode it usually wastes hours of time chasing it's tail or implementing kludges on kludges to get something working that would be a much simple fix elsewhere, especially when working on a larger codebase.

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Hence why the Anthropic employee is telling you to not use it and just aimlessly throw tokens at a wall. It'll eventually get you there, sure, and consume more tokens. This sounds absurd, but trust that Anthropic (and any large company) is hyper aware of how customer behavior impacts their revenue, and they certainly will try to steer you into behavior that increases revenue.

Also this is a way less removed process that I want nothing to do with. The more removed I am from the process the more I hate my job, get burned out and genuinely wish that Anthropic never existed.

Even if it could "just know" or infer my intent. It wouldnt be desirable.

Edit: Oh yeah its Boris, hes one or the most disengenous shovel sellers on earth right now.

So you think telling a model once to "do not write code, just plan" vs having an enum that causes that same text to be added to each message will somehow waste tokens and will surely make anthropic much better off..

I mean if you want it to plan something without writing code first you literally just need to ask it to plan out the implementation first it's not exactly a difficult concept

It must be fun to see everything as a conspiracy.

The Anthropic employee literally told you plan mode is a "we're still planning!!!" at the end of the prompt. Plan mode is useless because you can literally type "dont write code yet" and get the same effect, not because you should never plan in general.

Sure and I should also have been more specific, I don't always use "plan mode" I often just do planning without explicitly activating it just via prompting, point being that the robot doesn't work for me without some time spent planning out what to do.

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