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We are there. I’ve got fuck you money in the bank. I’m just kicking back waiting for the company to fail. It’s free money until then. Make up some shit and go back to doing other stuff.

They have lost money for the last two quarters, customer satisfaction is at an all time low, staff morale is gone, defects are piled up, costs are escalating on tokens and cloud, nothing is getting done but everyone thinks it is.

Let it burn.

We need a total reset. The entire market is overblown, overhyped and sells things nobody needs. Layers and layers of stupid to get nothing done. It’s an extraction economy. I’ve seen people replace simple stuff like a spreadsheet with a cloud hosted vibe coded turd. What the fuck is wrong with people?!? Have we collectively forgotten simple and elegant solutions?

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I agree. There is a lot of accumulated bloat and a lot of newly accreted bloat from the tools built to accelerate on the recent trends.

It seems to me that a big bust is about to follow the 15 year boom that started out as "web 2.0" and saw the rise of web app framework, "front end" development, "x as a service", start ups "pivoting" to software tooling creating bloat to tackle problems created by bloat etc.

A lot of jobs will be removed from the tech industry, I think. But the work in software development will be more interesting 5/10 years from now than it is now. Paid more in line with the rest of the economy and thus not attracting so many uninterested actors, and more aligned with market demand instead of driven by a labor oligopsony, held more to account once regulation catches up with technology etc. I think we might actually get "software engineering" after this.

This has been my feeling in more optimistic moments for a few years, fingers crossed the adjustment isn't too brutal.

As they say in scandinavia, there's no bad weather only bad clothes.

Suit up and brace yourself is all I can say. We should all be concerned in protecting our communities from the adjustment. Not in an doomerist way but you know prepare to weather a storm. I think it will be worse than 2008. But I also think that the next boom will be very very interesting and with a lot of great opportunities to advance humanity and technology.

The next turn of the spiral will always be higher and wider.

The world is still massively under-digitized, even after decades of it being mainstream.

So there will always be value to be made and markets to serve.

We don’t have to move everything to the computer. Also that doesn’t mean the existing models and solutions don’t already fit.

So if you want to go to see your favorite artist perform in a different city in six months time, you'll drive there today to get tickets?

There are many things which benefit from being digital, which aren't digitized enough. Usually this means third parties are making a lot of money by offering a platform until digitization happens.

If you sell any product or service to the public, these are generally the steps you go through to benefit from digitization:

1. No digital presence at all.

2. Digital presence through a third party which takes a 15%-25% cut of sales.

3. Digital presence through a SaaS which has a monthly fee.

4. Digital presence which you own yourself.

Step 3 and 4 are still very underserved markets, where customers could make massive savings or sales increase. And those who offer these solutions will profit.

What you’re saying is there’s plenty of opportunity to leverage people’s pockets through moving to compute from your perspective.

My favourite artist is dead and I have CDs.

Thank you for understanding my example...

Do you also understand that most people fucking hate to use computers? The only reason normal people use computers so much and even have their entire careers in front of computers is that those machines can perform tasks extremely efficiently.

In French a computer is called "an organizer". In Swedish it's called a "data machine". And with the Internet, it's also a communicator.

If you run a business, would you like to compute everything in your head and organize all your things in filing cabinets and have all your data on papers everywhere?

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