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It maybe a common mistake for WestEu/NorthAm people that China is like Soviet or North Korea.

It's diametrically opposite.

At the end of the last century, PRC gov deeply felt that the so-called "fairness" would only lead to "common poverty" and sought change.

So China (now, in this century) was born.

Just like the "famous"(notorious) quote left by a Chinese leader at the end of the last century explaining why restrictions were lifted (you can say this to ANY Chinese, they will definitely think you understand China! Instead of mocking you for reading too many conspiracy theories):

Whether it's a kind cat or an evil cat, as long as it catches a mouse, it's the best cat.

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Okay but we’re the mice. Doesn’t that bother you?

Thanks for your reply! But, ummm... I realized that maybe due to our different backgrounds, I might not have expressed my point clearly.

1."Whether it's a kind cat or an evil cat, as long as it catches a mouse, it's the best cat." I'm Gen Z, and like other Gen Zers, I'm generally not very interested in nationalist rhetoric.

But even putting Gen Z aside, any Chinese wouldn't see this as a nationalist comparison (cats and mice). Rather, it expresses the gov's attitude toward "cats" (big corporations(companies? I'm not sure how to choose this word)): as long as they generate enough profit, the government will consider them the "best cat."

2.Based on your country's context (Chinese gov this century has practiced liberalism TO THE EXTREME, that is preciously why I brought up Victoria era and Cyberpunk 2077. Its level of deregulation for the big corporations(companies?) far exceeds that of North America!), you might find it hard to understand why this saying is "notorious/famous" here. You might think freedom should be protected. But if you come to China and live here, you'd see it given that big corporations has haved unrestricted freedom,

Then there are 1000 Zhipu stealing your privacy, 1000000 Zhipu Pro stealing and selling your privacy, and 1000000000 Zhipu Pro Plus "rob" your privacy!

I can illustrate this from another angle: Chinese generally prefer products from Western Eu/North Am because their markets have stricter regulation compared to ours.

Remember what I mentioned? "99.99% of goods are CRAZILY CHEAP while falsely advertising without supervision. 99.99% of apps collect users' private info and then sell it. You can easily see this because almost no website even asks if you're okay with them collecting cookies."

And almost all of the negative comments about Zhipu never see on our internet. Because this Zhipu has the money to buy tons of bots. They can easily report posts almost like some DDOS (XD).

3.https://linux.do/t/topic/2887407 Just one example. But if you want, you can also buy Chinese people's privacy.

0.Finally, my logic is probably all over the place. In fact, I feel hurt. Because GLM is my favorite model (it has something clumsy human warmth. Maybe it seems strange to describe an AI that way, but... umm...maybe this would be beyond my words). The hurt would not be get diluted just because "other Chinese companies all do the same thing." Sigh. So, as a Chinese, I don't feel like America is getting worse.

People only truly cherish order once you've lost it. I hope American companies don't become like China.

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