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> openly gay German politician (Jens Spahn) had to give up his position (although he had it coming because his other political scandals) because he used a surrogate mother in US to have a kid with his husband.

That's misleading. The issue was hypocrisy. Spahn was a chief advocate against surrogacy. He publicly supported a motion keeping surrogacy illegal in Germany while simultaneously secretly using a surrogate mother in the US. That's not a great look.

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The reason he had to give up his position was not his hypocrisy. If that’s the case then 99% of all politicians would have to give up their positions.

Even if he was a supporter of surrogacy, he would still be forced to step back because surrogacy is illegal in Germany. Further, there was no debate or discussions on making surrogacy legal after that incident by the so called all other liberal progressives parties like Greens or the left that pretends to be all for women’s rights and equality

When Boris Johnson had to step down for throwing parties in No. 10 while simultaneously enforcing strict COVID-19 lockdowns, did you also perceive that to mean that British people are just really anti-partying?

> The reason he had to give up his position was not his hypocrisy. If that’s the case then 99% of all politicians would have to give up their positions.

No, you're lying. His colleagues publicly asked Spahn to resign explicitly because of the hypocrisy: https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/spahn-ruecktrittsforderunge...

Over the last few weeks, I've noticed you sharing many such misinformed framings of current news in Germany. May I ask why?

> Even if he was a supporter of surrogacy, he would still be forced to step back because surrogacy is illegal in Germany. Further, there was no debate or discussions on making surrogacy legal after that incident by the so called all other liberal progressives parties like Greens or the left that pretends to be all for women’s rights and equality

Just like the last few times you claimed "there was no debate" on a topic in Germany: yes there was, it just doesn't follow your caricaturesque understanding of leftist politics.

Ha have you heard yourself? “You’re lying! - it was his hypocrisy about his completely illegal behaviour not the completely illegal behaviour.”

Yes, I do! Spahn is infamous for doing lots of illegal stuff, and none of it resulted in him stepping back, until the surrogacy story. His constituents and his party publicly criticized him for his bigotry and asked him to step back. Which part do you have trouble following?

If you were mildly familiar with the situation, you'd know that.

It's not someone deliberately lying though is it.

What? How is it not a deliberate lie?

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